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Here is my take. Jn 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. The short answer is that this statement, like all scripture, has a practical application that must not be ignored and then there is liberty for a spiritual application. The practical application is in a Jewish...

Psa 12 has nothing to do with the preservation of the whole Bible. This Psalm was written by David who lived about 1000 years before any NT epistle was penned. As a matter of fact none of the prophetic books of the scriptures had been written when he wrote this Psalm. So many of the things David...

Good Grief! If there were not mystics associated with the KJV believers I would be surprised indeed and if you were not one of the men to find it and report it I would be double surprised. Jn 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I...

Well Dave, you are more of a moderate Calvinist than most on this forum and that is something to like about you. However, moderate as you are, your Reformed view of how God interacts with men still causes you to have several false or skewed foundational doctrines concerning God, man, sin, life...

Gotta luv you, ky but "predetermined" and "allowed" should not be in the same theological sentence, no?

Dave, come and let us reason together. If your course is already predetermined by an all powerful being then another course is not possible and not allowed. An action that over rules the determined course is called free will and another principle besides absolute sovereignty is involved by the...

It is my understanding that angels are spirits. He 1:14. All those sentient beings who are called by the scriptures "sons of God" are also created beings. You can check me on this. The angels before their fall in Ge 6 and also in Job 1. Adam in Lk 3:38. Jesus Christ as it pertained to his...

Not having a clue whether this is true but I heard one time if every person who has ever lived on the earth was given a 3 ft square to stand on, half the state of Texas would suffice for them all. If that is true it would give an awful lot of room to expand. Also, at the beginning of the...

I think you agree with my point. If a man and woman decides the size of their families, and they often do, then God does not determine it no matter what his will is. Natural laws govern among the just and the unjust. My post is about how unreasonable the Reformed doctrine of determinism really...

I am seeing that God has elected to provide salvation for all that a man and woman through the natural process has decided to conceive and the number is not fixed in eternity past. This seems to be the correct Baptist teaching and the number seems to be in the hands of the man and woman.

What I am seeing here is God has made us all subject to natural laws and his regulation of them. He holds us accountable for manipulation of those laws for our own ends outside of his will. Example; Gen 38 where God killed a man for doing that. I am not seeing determinism in that act.

Biblical teaching and doctrinal evidence indicates that the will of God is large families. We have lots of Reformed where I live and I know several of them. Most of them have about 2 children. If he, God, really determines all things according to his character and no one can change it, shouldn't...

I am here to help you, not to harm you. The conclusions you have posted concerning these people should convince anyone that you have not read the book and followed the time lines given. Neither have you considered the time of the prophecy and it's division of past present and future that John...

The key to understanding the scriptures is 1) Believe the words, and 2) honor the context. This is something that Calvinism does not promote. They bow the knee to intellectualism and their philosophy comes from their confessions, it seems to me. They are not critical thinkers inside their box...

They also make up terms like "sovereign" grace, "Limited" atonement, "total Depravity," "irresistible grace," "the sovereignty of God," to name a few, and they reverse many of the doctrines like faith and grace, making the order or salvation by faith through grace rather than by grace through...

My opinion on the op: This is a works based religion that is being presented here. Since there is no proof that can be offered by the ones claiming they are one of the particular elect, to salvation, then it stands that their only proof is their own works. Their salvation is not by faith. The...

You must at some point think for yourself.

You and I surely agree that the issue is what the scriptures teach us. It is the reason I brought up the Samaritan woman in John 4. And when you say that every born anew gentile is a child of promise I would be quick to say I agree if we are both speaking of the promise of the Abrahamic covenant...

Just out of curiosity, Fan, why are you telling me this?

Well, Van, most Christians, I think, do not doubt the Abrahamic Covenant that establishes Israel as the people of God because they do not like or trust Jews, it is because their teachers generally teach systematic theologies that are false because they do not believe the words of the...