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It is my understanding the disagreement is over the I in the TULIP. Irresistable versus resistable grace. Acts 7:51, Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

@Reformed, The source of God's word Paul cited in Romans 10:18, was referenced in a Psalm, Psalm 19:4, Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. And it being natural revelation giving men faith.

Ephesians 1:4 is NOT about the election. But God's choice of His elect before the foundation of the world. . . . εξελεξατο . . . . Related, but not the election which takes place in time. See Mark 13:20, . . . but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen . . . .

Matthew 22:14, For many are called, but few are | elect |.

"CDS?". Meaning?

Ephesians 2:8-9, For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

@Reformed, How do you make the Biblical case regeneration precedes believing the word of God. Key verse being Romans 10:17, . . . faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Obvious false teachings which deny essential Biblical teachings are worse than secondary teachings that the saved might disagree on.

1 John 2:1-2, . . . if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 Timothy 2:5-6, For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man...

Romans 5:9, Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

An explanation wanted solely from @JonC. Thank you. If you are not JonC, please address @JonC not me @37818.

And what did I qualify about God's "wrath" "on Christ" in this thread?

We do not agree on too many things here which confuses issues. The texts of the transaction stands. What I had cited. Isaiah 53:6, All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Romans 5:8, But God commendeth...

The Term Trinity is not in the Bible either. Penal Substitution is understood to be taught in Isaiah 53:6 and Romans 5:8.

Isaiah 53:6, . . . the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Js NOT theory. It is Biblical FACT. Romans 5:8, But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Then a narrower view than even discussing a view if disagreed on.

Whom believe in Him through Christ. Romans 3:26.

In short John 19:30, . . . It is finished . . . , refers back to John 19:28, . . . were . . . accomplished, . . . . See @Van's post #21.

Among Holy Scripture held in common. Romans 3:23-26, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his...