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"THERE IS NO ONE THAT SEEKS GOD, NO NOT ONE", if you believe scripture that's the answer. "The natural man is UNABLE to please God", "The natural man is UNABLE to understand the things of the Spirit", "You are UNABLE to come to me unless the Father who sent me DRAW HIM, ALL that the Father draws...

Every Calvinistic and Arminian Scholar will tell you that God has at least two wills, often referred to as His revealed will and His Secret Will. Here's an example; God hates murder, especially the murder of the innocent. Who planned Christ's murder? Read Isaiah 53 and Acts 4, Isaiah says "For...

Errors arise from taking one verse and not using the entire revealed word of God. It's called "Hermaneutics", that is did Jesus call Peter "Satan"? Yes, Christ doesn't lie, therefore Peter is Satan. That's the called of "Theology" so prevalent on this board, and the reason Systematic Theology is...

Hey at least one FINALLY attempted it, though poorly at least he tried:) I just like to demonstrate what LENGTHS these guys will go to hold onto their "Autonomy", they'll jump over and under, anything but what it plainly says, and says elsewhere. I think it's impossible to go through the book of...

I know I'm not preaching to you brother, I know you know all that:)

BROTHER, come on! We're ALREADY in the image, well that term is introduced by you, Christ says those that are not of God are CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL, did you read that part? "Before you were children of the devil", it's all through, so God doesn't have to make us children of the devil, we by...

Those that Christ died for He intercedes for, there is no blurring of the lines. God "Put out sins on Christ...", so if God put our sins on Christ, they were paid for, if God put all men's sins on Christ, then all will go to Heaven, and right now Christ is interceding for Kim Jun Il and everyone...

Also what does Calvin have to do with it? Read the BIBLE, read John 6, in it you have TULIP, all points. "You are UNABLE to come to me", "Unless the FATHER DRAW YOU", "ALL that the Father draw WILL COME", and "he who comes to me I will not cast out". There all 5 points in one chapter.

Don't mean to be rude but if you studied you'd know. Read "Institutes of Christian Religion", and you'll see. Also remember TULIP was a response, a response to the 5 Remonstrants. Do you believe in the 5 Remonstrants?

No responses? Those He died for He intercedes for, so is He interceding for all? Are the Universilists right? Then the only option is Definite Atonement.

What happened on the Cross? Did Jesus die for everyone as some say? Did Jesus make Salvation "Possible", but not DEFINITE for anyone? Scripture is clear and the answer simple. Jesus does not fail, Jesus died for the elect, and the elect only, it's called "Definite Atonement". In the OT the...

Right but what Christ? A beggar in Heaven, trying all He can to save people, loving them infinitely but knowing most He will have to punish in Hell eternally because that darn free will is getting in the way, or the Reformed view of Christ as a strong, powerful Savior who accomplished what He...

Right that word in Greek is DRAG. Its the same word used when the woman was DRAGGED to the well. What's fascinating about that to me is that God DOES drag us, I never wanted to be a Christian, I loved sin. He says "I will DRAW them with my lovingkindness". The frustrating thing though of course...

I guess people just like to talk, I don't see one attempt do you? Why post on a thread if they're just going to talk about other issues?????

I KNEW this would happen, seriously brother it's SAD. They criticize, alter the point, but not one can Exegete this, and as you know this is a simple one. If I put a tough one the insults would just get worse, sad.

No Exegesis. I thought so, just a bunch of people changing the subject. Really, really sad that no one can exegete a simple passage like this.

No Exegesis

It's pretty simple, my honest point was to see an Arminian Exegete the passage. Just as I thought no one can. I have much tougher ones, this is a simple one.

The Westminister divines were fantastic. Remember at that time, in order to qualify for graduate school in Theology, you didn't have to just know Greek, you had to be able to DEBATE IN GREEK. Doctor of Theology was the highest degree you could get, it would be like "Doctor of Neurosurgery"...

You must not read the bible, a verse you say? How about two, there are many. Romans 3:10:11 "as it is written, there is no one that is righteous, no not ONE, there is NO ONE who understands, NO ONE WHO SEEKS AFTER GOD, ALL have turned away, they have become altogether worthless... Now if NO...