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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    When God chose His Redeemer before the foundation of the world, or before the creation of fallen humanity, God also chose corporately those His Redeemer might redeem, thus we were chosen in Him before the foundation of the world. Therefore, our salvation and holy calling as ambassadors of...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    We were chosen corporately, before creation, when Christ was chosen individually to be God's Redeemer, His Lamb of God. Thus we were chosen in Him as those God's Redeemer might redeem, those whose faith God might credit as righteousness. Once individually chosen, during our physical lifetime...
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    AW Tozer and the Order of Salvation

    Here is an Excerpt from the linked article: So here is the order of salvation per Tozer: First of all – and this is an important detail – he is referring to an unsaved person here. His “average person” is an unsaved one. If an unsaved person just follows these prescribed steps, so he...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Typical response, ignoring the reason the church is part of All Israel. Just a repeat of false claims. Here it is again, when a person under the New Covenant is born anew, they become "siblings of Christ." Romans 8:29. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if my brother is an Israelite, I...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Here is a study based on grammar and context of 2 Thessalonians 2:13. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 is a compound sentence, with subjects, verbs, direct and indirect objects. We should always give thanks to God for you as beloved by the Lord. Subject, =We; Verb = should give thanks, direct object =...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    Simply repeating one false claim after another, and avalanche of fiction, does not move the ball. 1) God sent His uniquely divine Son, God incarnate, Jesus the Anointed One. 2) He was treated as sin, but was not sin, as He was just. 3) Christ did not take anyone's sin when He died on the...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    The church is part of "All Israel!" Anyone can post unsupported claims. The key if I have presented evidence that "all the nations" refers to both Jews and Gentiles. See post # 18.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I see the Calvinist poster has flamed out, unable to even comprehend when and where people are made perfect. So they offer unfounded disparagement and non-germane verbiage.
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    The Love of God

    One of the ambiguities found in modern translations is the term love of God or Christ or Truth or Father. Sometimes from the context the phrase appears to indicate our love for God, and at other times it appears to indicate Divine love for us. The grammar appears to be vague such that the...
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    The sheep and the goats?

    The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.” [Galatians 3:8] Here we see "Nations" used to refer to both Jews and Gentiles, and that justification comes through individual...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    More fiction, more posting non-germane verbiage as if pertinent. Who has Christ perfected? Those sanctified, referring to those God chooses to set apart in Christ based on crediting their faith as righteousness. And folks, note the term "Legally Sanctified" a made up phrase. Ask yourselves...
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    Vote To Curb Military Action In Venezuela Blocked In Senate

    Obviously, the MAGA Republicans need to pick up at least three more seats in the Senate to protect themselves from the RINO's.
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    Dilbert Author Dies

    Here is a statement made by the brilliant author of the Dilbert cartoon strip, that poked fun at bureaucratic madness. "Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I am not a believer, I have to admit the risk/reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive...
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    AW Tozer and the Order of Salvation

    I did not plow through the linked article, but I read far enough to see it was a Calvinist hit piece. The verse, My sheep hear my voice does not preclude some who are "of His sheep" from hearing His voice. The fields white for harvest are "of His sheep." Next, the article made the...
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    AW Tozer and the Order of Salvation

    John 1:5 ESV The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. This appears to be the translation cited in post #2. Shines is in the present tense indicating the Light continuously shines within the realm of darkness where lost humanity reside. Darkness, which is the...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Did I do any such thing? Nope. Why are some posters allowed to systemically denigrate those who hold differing views without a shred of truth? Here this poster claims the context is not king, but Calvinist misinterpretation is king. Calvinism is found no where in the text or the context. No...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    LOL, now this poster misrepresents not only Scripture, my interpretation, but his own statement. Good Grief. Next, this poster does not address the reason why from the beginning refers to from the beginning of the New Covenant. He says I made it up, but not say why people could have chosen by...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Has anyone even looked at how the phrase "from the beginning" is used in scripture. Look at these examples where the phrase refers to a whole time period subsequent to an event. 2 Samuel 21:10, Ecc. 3:11, Isa. 46:10, Mat. 19:8, Luke 1:2, John 6:64, John 8:25, Acts 26:4, 2 Thess 2:13, 1 John...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    What a waste, I cite God's word and Calvinist post taint so and cite Calvinist smokescreed. Everyone knows there are tons of Calvinist falsehoods, but they do not stand up to study. Before the beginning does not mean In the beginning, and in the beginning does not mean since the beginning...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another against the person post, which is a fallacious argument. Did I say the words "the New Covenant" appear in the context? Nope so the implication that I did is yet another false claim by the Calvinists. What did I say? Why does "from the beginning" refer to "from the beginning of...
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