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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    These Calvinists like to change the subject from 2 Thessalonians 2:13 to their manufactured disparagement of those that love them enough to be messengers of truth. So sad... Yet another idiotic absurdity, here positional sanctification, being spiritually set apart in Christ as the means of our...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Let us take a closer look at these claims. 1) What was the mystery that God predestined before the "ages,"in 1 Corinthians 2:7? First "before the ages" refers to before time began, before creation. Next the context reveals the "mystery" in view in our verse. Mystery refers to the things...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    2 Thessalonians 2:13 is a compound sentence, with subjects, verbs, direct and indirect objects. Here is how I understand it based on grammar and context. We should always give thanks to God for you as beloved by the Lord. Subject, =We; Verb = should give thanks, direct object = God...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    To paraphrase part of a recent post: The 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 passage has nothing to do with being chosen BEFORE the foundation of the world, and everything to do with being chosen individually for salvation since the beginning of the New Covenant in His blood, when He died. The first...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Someone said belief of the truth is the result of sanctification by the spirit. I called that view "idiotic absurdity." 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says we are chosen for salvation "through" or on the basis of faith in the truth. It does not say sanctification provides faith in the truth. That...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Just posting scripture without explaining how the post adds to the discussion is not useful. Here we see the Greek word "adelphos" (G80) and in this usage refers to fellow believers as siblings of one family, as children of God. So where we see brothers, brothers and sisters, siblings, or...
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    Monroe Doctrine

    I have no idea just what your purpose and intent for posting. Marxist sabotage seems a possibility.
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    Monroe Doctrine

    Here is the actual text, at the end of the article. Monroe Doctrine (1823) Note that Teddy Roosevelt and JFK created corollaries to the Non-Interference doctrine. Also of interest, at least to me, was the efforts of the Third Reich to establish a clandestine beachhead in South America. And...
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    Daily killings

    1) To not accept the murder of 10s or 100s of thousands of Americans is not the rationalization of murder, it is a biblically mandated response to injustice. 2) Did I say or suggest the fugitive slave act was just. You make up falsehoods about me and post them, marking you as what you are...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    More dancing around the issue, more deception and diversion. We were chosen for salvation through faith, thus God credited our faith in the truth as righteousness as the basis of His choice. The accreditation was a gracious gift, but our initial faith was not supernaturally instilled by...
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    The one "true church"

    Close but no cigar. The Greek word translated "church" over 100 times in the NT is "ekklesia" (G1577) and it is a compound word meaning "called out" and refers to those who have been called out of the realm of darkness into the Kingdom of His beloved Son, Colossians 1:13. Some create a...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Spot On!! As many as received Him, those who put their trust and devotion in Christ, as determined and credited by God, to them He gave the power to become children of God by transferring them into Christ and causing them to be born anew spiritually, as siblings of Christ. In short, their...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another false claim of idiotic absurdity, we already have been chosen for salvation through faith in the truth, when we are put spiritually into Christ and then after we have been set apart in Christ, we undergo the washing of regeneration whereby we are born anew, holy and blameless before Him.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    More dancing around the issue, more deception and diversion. We were chosen for salvation through faith, thus God credited our faith in the truth as righteousness as the basis of His choice. The accreditation was a gracious gift, but our initial faith was not supernaturally instilled by...
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    Daily killings

    News Flash! The Atheists and Muslims are coordinating to destroy the Judaeo-Christian culture of the West. When you see reports of the tens or hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by drugs grown by the Muslims in Afghanistan or manufactured as precursors in China, you should realize who...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another false claim of idiotic absurdity, we already have been chosen for salvation through faith in the truth, when we are put spiritually into Christ and then after we have been set apart in Christ, we undergo the washing of regeneration whereby we are born anew, holy and blameless before Him.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    More dancing around the issue, more deception and diversion. We were chosen for salvation through faith, thus God credited our faith in the truth as righteousness as the basis of His choice. The accreditation was a gracious gift, but our initial faith was not supernaturally instilled by...
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    Colorful Marriages

    Acts 17:26 reads of one blood in the KJV (TR) and the WEB (MT) but not the NASB (CT). That text just reads made from one every nation of humanity...that they would seek God (verse 27). Sort of reinforces the idea a marriage should be among those who sought and were found by God.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another effort to deny we were saved by grace through or on the basis of faith when and if credited by God as righteousness.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Another effort to deny we were saved by grace through or on the basis of faith.
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