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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Off topic diversionary post, we were chosen for salvation through faith in the truth, not chosen then given instilled faith via irresistible grace.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    We were chosen for salvation individually on the basis of God crediting our flawed faith as righteousness, His choice was gracious because our faith did not merit or earn the choice. Romans 11:5 Christ was chosen, and therefore an elect one, and those of us chosen through faith and...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another idiotic absurdity, we were chosen for salvation through or on the basis of faith in the truth, therefore we can to faith BEFORE God chose us as individuals for salvation.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yet another idiotic absurdity, we are saved by grace THROUGH OR ON THE BASIS OF FAITH.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    More idiotic absurdity, here "he saved us" is falsely claimed to refer to He chose us for salvation. The same rewrite to alter the text of 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Here is a walk back, one Calvinist says or implies faith is a instilled gift, and when proved false, the next Calvinist claims the gift of salvation includes faith. Just another fiction from the dark ages. Note the fact we are chosen "through" or on the basis of faith in the truth is ignored...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Here the Calvinist ignores the plain reading of 2 Thessalonians 2:13 and claims it says the opposite.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Here is an entire post address my supposed character flaws, rather than biblical doctrine. Why the effort to change the subject to me, rather than 2 Thessalonians 2:13. Someone said belief of the truth is the result of sanctification by the spirit. I called that view "idiotic absurdity." 2...
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    Colorful Marriages

    Just one little note on physical differences. Scripture says there is NO difference between male and female. Now no one believes, at least in my experience, that males and females are equal physically. But we are all the same to God, whether black or white skinned, whether Jew with their...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    According to scripture, pre-salvation faith is NOT a gift! Your statement if false. Your intentionally vague claim about Ephesians 2:8 is fiction. I expect you know that the pronoun "that" does not refer to faith, the pronoun being neuter while faith being feminine, but you make the false...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Thus we were NOT saved because of our faith, our faith only allowed God to credit it or not. Our faith did not deserve salvation or merit salvation, the accreditation was a act of mercy and grace. Salvation does NOT depend upon the person who wills, but upon God who has mercy. [from the OP]...
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    Reading biblical study books

    Great Point!! What some do is to re-translate a faithful translation into an unfaithful one to support false doctrine. The NWT being a fine example.
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    Reading biblical study books

    Yes, prior sins do not preclude salvation, only unbelief as determined by God.
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    Reading biblical study books

    Sir, you have demonstrated complete ignorance of the gospel. You continue to espouse a works based salvation. That view is fiction.
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    Colorful Marriages

    Interesting topic, Old Sarge! Let me dig into just one tiny facet of the linked article. A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 7:39 NASB What does "only in the Lord" mean. I...
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    Government murder

    You need to address what I say, and stop making up positions and attributing them to me. God choosing an individual for salvation is not precluded by a prior life of sin.
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    Reading biblical study books

    You need to study God's word, Sir. Jesus is the way, the means of entering Heaven. But you do not enter through the narrow door by works, such as I taught Sunday School, or I was baptized by a Baptist preacher. Next you make a charge of misquoting Jesus, but provide no specific reference...
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    Government murder

    News flash for the uninformed! The answer is YES. God can choose to have mercy on anyone, but has told us He will have mercy on those whose faith in Christ He credits as righteousness. Even serial killers!
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Respectfully Dave G, I can understand my Savior's words by reading them. Thus it is our understanding that differs. Here is where we agree: "We were...chosen to salvation through our sanctification (being set apart into Christ by God's Spirit) and through (not because of, which constitutes...
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    Reading biblical study books

    I personally knew a person who fled, with her parents from the NASI's during WWII. They boarded a ship, were not allowed to disembark at ports outside the control of the NASIs and so had to return to the sea. At this point in her account, she grabbed my arm and said, you know the seas were...
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