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    The Systematic Theology of John Brown of Haddington

    Does God know everything imaginable or only what God has chosen to know. Those that claim God cannot really remember no more our sins, or that God already knew Abraham would kill his only son, rather than knowing when Abraham drew his knife, or that Jesus really did know the time of His return...
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    Studying John 1:12-13

    Because some believers have not learned or even heard that our faith must be credited by God before we are chosen individually for salvation during our physical lives, many posters avoid the issue and instead post, "but what about this or that" subject change questions. So the issues they...
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    In the Spirit

    Romans 8:9 NASB However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. Here obviously, the meaning of the phrase is the person has been transferred spiritually into the...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    I did not see where I said "whom He foreknew" was not what scripture says. Next, your view is implied not to be "playing games" but my view is "playing games." Next, it is implied I am using "liberal debating tactics," Next you indicated that I am interpreting scripture from a Calvinist...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    The foreknew of Romans 8:29 is from Before creation. I demonstrated that conclusion. You did not address it, but simply restated your view. Isaiah 45:9-10 says nothing about "eternal decrees" but rather points to His declarations in time, from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:11 does...
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    In the Spirit

    The phrase "in the Spirit" is found about 19 times in the NASB version of the New Testament. Of these, the Greek construction, "en (in) pneuma (the faith) is found in 13 verses. Two verses have the Greek construction "en (in) ho (the) pneuma (faith), two have "ho (in the) pneuma (Spirit) and...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    1) "Its not the plan but the people God foreknew." Nope. None of the people had been created. God knew beforehand, from the time before the foundation of the world, His redemption plan including His Redeemer, the Lamb of God, and those His Redeemer might redeem, the target group of His...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    No one's name was written in the Lamb's book of life until after the foundation of the world, thus the implementation of God's redemption plan did not begin until after or since the foundation of the world. Thus we have the plan formulated before the foundation, as Christ was known as the Lamb...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    All those in Christ now, after Christ's sacrifice were not in Christ before Christ's sacrifice. They had to wait in Abraham's bosom, until they could be made perfect. We receive the Holy Spirit AFTER we are transferred into Christ, thus we are sealed in Christ with the Holy Spirit...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    What I said: God chose the descendants of Abraham corporately, they would be as many as the stars, but were also chosen individually when God determined they loved God and were determined to keep His commands. This illustrates God's corporate election of believers presented in Ephesians 1:4 of...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    In the verse where Jesus says, i never "knew" you, Matthew 7:23, the Greek word translated knew is "ginosko" G1097. The word is used in several different ways. In Matthew 1:25, Joseph never "knew" Mary until Jesus was born. Thus to "know" in this biblical sense is to have sexual relations...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    I assume this means you agree that the NT is concealed in the OT, and the mysteries of the OT are revealed in the NT. The concept that the OT provides living parables illustrating the truths revealed in the NT seems be foreign to your study method. God chose the descendants of Abraham...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    My view is of course proven by Hebrews 11:39-40. KenH claims the OT saints were not taken to Abraham's bosom, which is where they went according the Luke 16:22. Next KenH claims human individuals were chosen before creation for salvation, which is of course precluded by 1 Peter 2:9-10. Only...
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    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    The premise of this thread seems to be if you change your understanding from what you first learned, then you may be a false brethren. Sounds like Apollos (Acts 18:24-28) is a false brethren in the eyes of Zaatar71.
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    To briefly return to the thread topic, foreknowledge refers to information acquired or formulated in the past being utilized in the present. The witnesses knew Paul had been raised as a Pharisee, and could testify to that fact in the present. The manner of Christ's sacrifice had been...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    If we read Deuteronomy 7:7-9 we see the Old Covenant election of Israel is a corporate election of a nation or people or group based on keeping His promise to the forefathers of the people about to enter "the promised land." Were they all elected individually, when the promise was made to...
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    We govern our behavior so we decide whether our stance is legalistic or not. Generally legalism is an effort to elevate our views over the clearly required behaviors explicitly required by scripture. For example some might teach a person must be water baptized to be saved, when others do not...
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    I am just addressing this opening post, and not any of the comments that may have followed. In order to be saved, the person's faith must be credited as righteousness by God. We know from Romans 4, that He credits the faith of those who believe God raised Jesus from the dead. We know from...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    First, we do not use the OT to interpret the NT, we use the NT to interpret the OT. It is the context of 1 Peter that applies to understanding the meaning of 1 Peter"s reference to OT citations. The election of Israel is not in view. They were not all chosen as priests, unlike election under...
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    "The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

    I disagree, as the context precludes that view. 1 Peter 2:2 refers to the audience as "you" as people who are to grow in respect to salvation. Thus the you refers to New Covenant born anew believers. 1 Peter 2:5 the "you" are living stones through Jesus. Again, the audience is people that...
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