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God does not give people faith BF that is an error from the pagan philosophy you keep holding to. Even the fact that Christ was raised does not save BF. We are only saved when we have trusted in Him. How can one that claims to have studied the bible for decades miss so much of what the bible...

You deny them when you read your failed philosophy into them BF. His death did not save BF His life does. Rom 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Do you see saved by His...

1Co 15:14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 1Co 15:15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up; if in fact the dead do not rise. 1Co 15:16 For if the...

Why do you keep denying what the Holy Spirit inspired BF. 1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. You keep giving me your opinion and you keep denying the clear scripture that I post. So who do you think is really Christ...

1Co 15:14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 1Co 15:17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!

Christ did die for our sins BF, that is why all men can be saved. What you fail to understand is that we are saved because we have believed in the risen Christ. You are only teaching half of the gospel if you leave out the resurrection. 1Co 15:3 For I delivered to you first of all that...

Be that as it may BF you are still denying the clear word of God. Hold to your C/R philosophy all you want but do not say that you actually trust the word of God.

Yes and once we have all the scholars agree then we can say that we think we have the actual word of God as He inspired it. As even then we will not have the autographs.

37 you may think you need to wrestle all the disagreements to the ground, I do not. The bible I have in my hand has served me well for over 65 years. Any "errors" that you may think are in the text do not have any impact on my trusting in the God that I see revealed in the bible. I have read...

BF again the verse you posted shows you are wrong. By your continued misuse of scripture you deny the truth's of God. Rom 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. We were...

And there we see it again BF, you do the same with what someone writes as you do with the word of God. You pull words out of context. The death of Christ saved no one BF we are saved by His life. That is the message of the bible. Rom_5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God...

BF look at what you put in bold? 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. Their faith in in the risen Christ BF. That is why one is saved. Christ had to die to cover all of humanities sins and was raised...

@Conan I am not offended by your comments. I just see them as coming across as rather judgemental by times. I understand what you are saying re discussing variants but I have seen to much heat by times. I am not a scholar and the various views are just that various views. Perhaps the various...

Why would that be 37? Just because I do not dance to the same tune as you and conan does not mean I do not trust what the various scholars have done. You seem to have put all your eggs in one basket, your choice, me I really do not see where they have settled the case and thus the...

It does not say that only little green men will be saved either so by yur logic should we expect little green men to be with us in heaven. The bible does not say a lot of things that you claim BF but at least now we know how you come to your off beat theology. You just read into the text what...

Being reconciled to God does not man saved BF.

Sorry BF the word of God disagrees with you.

Where we differ is that you and 37 seem to be really invested in one line of transmission. That is fine and you can do as you please. From what I have read they all have they challenges or we would not see the disagreements. Will it make any real difference in the bibles we have in our hands...

That is not what the text says BF. You are reading your C/R philosophy into the text. Or are you sticking with your universalism and saying that the whole world will be saved? You do this all the time and you see where it has lead you, to a false understanding of the word of God. The "Elect...

Only in response to your silly comments BF. As I have said more than once BF if Christ had not been raised from the grave we would not have a savior that could save us. We are saved through faith in the risen Christ. 1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you...