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  1. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    But salvation is not the cross PLUS our faith. Faith is part and parcel the cross, not an addendum. I’m listening to the late Dr. Greg Bahnsen on sermon audio. He was going through Galatians, and he stated something I think adds to this discussion: “If our justification is grounded in our faith...
  2. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Bingo! We agree with the in Him. We were chosen in Him from before the foundation of the world. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the...
  3. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    And that’s why we are to do the great commission, do His work here on earth. Amen?
  4. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    But the unregenerate cannot work righteousness, seeing his righteousness is filthy rags, per Isaiah 64:6. And they also do not fear Him, per Psalm 14, Psalm 36, and Romans 3. And it’s Acts not Romans.
  5. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Man makes choices freely every day. But what we are talking about is not whether to have bacon and eggs or a bagel with peanut butter for breakfast, or wearing a black belt with brown shoes :oops::Cautious, but can the unregenerate freely choose God while still in an unregenerate state. The...
  6. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    No one becomes elect. They were elect before God said, “Let there be light.”
  7. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Look at our laws for instance. You go somewhere and you’re doing 40, but you’re unaware the speed limit is 25. You get pulled over and say you didn’t know it was a 25 MPH speed limit. Ignorance of the law does not absolve you of guilt. Those places I showed you shows that they freely did what...
  8. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Again, that’s not my point, nor what I. Man is accountable to God for every sin they commit. Look at Genesis 50:20, Isaiah 10, Acts 2:23, Acts 4:27-28. These wicked things they did, they did in accordance to God’s plans.
  9. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    I never said they were exclusive, but inclusive. They’re not the same thing in any way, shape, form or fashion. However, they do happen simultaneously.
  10. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Man is not autonomous, but fully relying on Him, for his inhaling and exhaling, for every heart beat the heart makes, for his food, clothes, water, life, family, &c.
  11. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Salvation is not the new birth, but is part and parcel of (new birth) salvation. The new birth is being born again, born from above. Salvation is being saved from their sins. They are not the same thing, but are mutually inclusive. No one is saved and not born again, neither is one born again...
  12. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of...
  13. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Our point is man, in and of himself, will never submit to Him. If he has to wait until he exerts his will to submit to God, while in an unregenerate state, they will die lost. Romans 5:5-9 clearly states this as biblical truth.
  14. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    I don’t disagree those who don’t trust Him won’t come to trust Him. Our disagreement is how they come to trust Him, the means by which they come to trust Him. We, the reformed, say the new birth is what causes them to trust Him. The other side says they exercise free will and then come to trust...
  15. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    None allows God to save them. That right there exalts man, much like the king of Babylon in Isaiah 14. God has mercy on whom He will have mercy.
  16. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Those born of God love Him, per 1 John 4:7. Those who love Him also trust Him.
  17. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    My point is the Holy Spirit doesn’t just point us in the right direction, but to quicken us to life.
  18. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    But that still doesn’t answer the questions in that scenario. Christ didn’t die to make us savable, but to save us, per Matthew 1:21.
  19. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    And I can give a hearty amen to this. My responses were a response more specifically to this: "We view genuine love as a voluntary act rather than something pre-determined by a forced congruence: they only love God because that's the way God made them." And this voluntary act that ppl have is...
  20. SovereignGrace

    Dominion vs determinism

    Let us examine together another place that has a few more vss to see why the reformed ppl teach what they do in regards to the new birth being something that God does unilaterally and does not depend upon us to exercise our (allegedly) free wills: For those who are according to the flesh set...
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