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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Did Christ save all God willed/Desires to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth? That's what His Father sent Him to accomplish.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    There's no faith until one is saved by regeneration. So faith doesn't allow God to do anything, If anything God allows or gives faith. God the Spirit
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Did He save all God wanted to be Saved?
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Are you suggesting Christ fell short of doing His Fathers will ? The Father sent Him to seek and to save that which was lost Lk 19:10 10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. So aren't those the Father desires to be saved here 1 Tim 2:4 Who will have all men to...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    The Elect Children of God and Christ saved them all, fulfilling the Fathers desire will
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Only Israel the elect of God has been promised to redeem Ps 130 8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    The whole world of the children of God. Some of mankind are children of the devil, Christ isnt their kinsman redeemer. You think the devil and his seed are the children of God ?
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    False, theyre Christ brethren and children [of God] when they are born sinners. Thats why He is there kinsman Redeemer. The children took on flesh and blood in Adam and sinned, Christ came in the flesh to redeem them Heb 2:14,17 14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Christ and His Body are One Heb 2 11 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, So if Christ is elect so is His brethren
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Election to salvation is unconditional Romans 9
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I have and you don't accept it. You just say I'm taking it out of context
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yes it is about salvation, the entire book of Romans is about the Gospel of God.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    I am going to keep saying it because it's true both faith and believing in Christ are gifts of God and repentance.
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    Redeems those He died for from the Prison of Unbelief !

    Believers were saved by Christs death alone, because by His death alone He for them, before they became believers obtained for them eternal redemption Heb 9:12 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    No Im not you are. Believing and Faith in Christ is given by grace
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    It was from the beginning Gen 1:1 so it was b4 men were made, b4 they were born to do good or evil Rom 9 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth) Gods election...
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Wrong that's what you see unfortunately you been deceived
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Yes the work of the Spirit here in sanctifying the elect to believe the Truth, is answer to Jesus prayer here Jn 17:17 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    The bible has never stated that falsehood, believing in Jesus is given as a gift of grace Phil 1:29 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; Thats not a condition but a blessing bestowed
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    Understanding 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Thats Truth 2 Thess 2:13 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and Its Trus "sanctification of the Spirit did"
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