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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    I don't know what in the world you talking about. You rarely make any sense to me, no disrespect
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    See when we were born dead in sin Christ was already surety and responsible for our condemnation, as soon as it occurred in Adam, God looked to Christ to satisfy Justice for it. Do you believe this?
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    And many will believe it because of the everlasting Covenant that's in Scripture
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Okay so how could the elect be born with their condemnation charged to them since Christ was held responsible for it by compact agreement from eternity past?
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    Interpretation

    But there's no scripture that says Christ came under bondage you made that up and it's a double standard. So for now on please don't be critical of others who give their interpretation of a scripture, you do the very same thing
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    Interpretation

    I just want you to know you set a double standard
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    Interpretation

    You said Christ came under the bondage of sin where do you see that verse at?
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    Interpretation

    But you have been critical on people who do not use exact wordage and now you're not using the exact words
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    Interpretation

    But I don't see the word bondage that you used earlier
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    Divine Justice

    Bondage of sin? He came under the wages of sin, death. Rom 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. He freed the elect from this death, He abolished death 2 Tim 1:10 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour...
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    Divine Justice

    I've showed scripture before
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    Divine Justice

    Because they were guilty duh. Maybe you need to study what Justice means
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    So when did God make Christ a surety in the everlasting covenant of Grace for the sins and condemnation of the elect? When was He responsible for their sins?
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    Divine Justice

    That's because Christ death for them provided the Justice that their guilt deserved. God did not just forgive them apart from Justice being satisfied for them.
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    Divine Justice

    That's not Justice, if guilty Justice must be meted out. God hasn't sacrificed His Justice to just being merciful. He is revealed as A Just God and a Saviour Isa 45:21 That's not Justice, if guilty Justice must be meted out. God hasn't sacrificed His Justice to just being merciful. He is...
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    Divine Justice

    This supposed that Christ died for every individual , He didn't , He died only for the elect so the non-elect sins remain counted against them, Justice for them is the lake of fire
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    Faith # 4

    That Faith that embraces/Receives a Knowledge of Salvation, its a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, This is also reaffirmed to be true here seeing that Faith is the belif of the Truth 2 Thess 2:13 13...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    So do you believe this also is the basis for the eternal justification of the elect, B4 they were born?
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    He died for the world in Christ, the elect world . The world He died for is delivered from wrath, so everyone else under the wrath of God He could not have died for them.
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    Faith # 4

    The Faith of the Son of God !2 The Lord Jesus Christ by New Birth imparts Faith to all for whom He died, so that the Life and Faith a True Christian Lives by is from out of the Son of God, who gave Himself for them Gal 2:20 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but...
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