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    Faith # 4

    The Faith of the Son of God 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Everyone Christ die for were crucified with Him [Rom...
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    Faith # 4

    without me ye can do nothing. Jn 15:4-5 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit...
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    Calvinism, TULIP, and reverse engineering

    Yes it is the Gospel of God's Grace clarified. Acts 20:24-27 24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    It.càn and does, so all what? There's a difference in all and all mankind
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Yes they were contrasted to some whose condemnation is sealed 2 Pet 3 7 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. So God is willing the men of perdition perish, certainly they...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    I showed you the scripture Jn 10 16 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. The Elect were Elect before Peter preached the Gospel to them to obtain Salvation 2 Tim 2:10 9...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    It's for the elect and the verse reads just fine 2 Pet 3:9
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    That verse is for the elect
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Still Sheep and most not yet Born. They were still His and there names had already been written in the lambs book of life from the foundation of the world.
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Eph 1:4 say that the elect were Chosen in Christ B4 the foundation of the world.
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    False. The Elect and the sheep are the same and Jesus had them before they heard His voice and believe, so they were still unbelievers Jn 10:16 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    The whole world of the elect They were in Christ B4 He died for them and B4 they believe. They were Chosen in Christ B4 the foundation of the world Ephesians 1:4
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    He died for the elect B4 they believe
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    It's the Sheep, all of them, that is why He rose after dying the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb 13:20 20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, And pantos can and is exclusive in...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    That's the Sheep or the Sons. He taste death for them so they don't have to. He abolish death for them. Again the word for in Heb 2:9 is hyper and means in behalf of, for the sake of and instead of. Like here 2 Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Actually, it is, just not using your sound bites. You just don't believe in the substitutionary death of Christ for the elect, or do you ? Gods wrath Christ suffered is nothing but suffering the penalty and punishment for sin due to elect people.
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    Faith # 4

    Receiving the things pertaining to God ! Faith by which one receives Christ, or believes on His Name, is only ascribed to those who have been born of God Jn 1:12-13 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which...
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    Faith # 4

    Another way to define Faith Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Faith is that which gives spiritual evidence or persuasion of our Saving Interest in the Person and Work of Christ for God's Elect ! 5
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