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God does not need a shield from anything. God knew the devil would tempt Jesus in the wilderness, and did nothing to keep him out. But allowing temptation does not mean wanting sin to happen. You now, misapplying James 4:17, accuse God of knowing that something good (preventing temptation and...

kyredneck said: ...and/or: 14 ... Is there unrighteousness with God?... Romans 9 All the complaints against God's Sovereign Grace have their roots in these. There is no unrighteousness with God, for He does not will sin to happen.

You personal attacks, name calling, and wish to harm those who disagree with you does not help your case.

We agree that God knew that Adam would fall. But no, it was not God’s will that Adam failed the test. God never wills sin to happen. The entire Bible proclaims the holy nature of God in opposition to all sin. Most Christians understand that what God allows or foreknows is not the same as what...

I deny that God wants sin to exist. Sin is never what pleases God. You are playing games with words to dishonor the holy nature of God.

No, we are not debating the Person of Christ. I have not once in this thread discussed that topic. The disagreement is strictly about the holiness of God: did God want Adam to disobey Him and commit sin? Debating hypotheticals is pointless. Who would Christ be if Lucifer never rebelled and...

People sin, but God never wills anyone to sin. To say God wants evil to happen is blasphemy. People reject God and perish, but God wants all to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. Yet Jesus says the road to life is narrow, and few there be that find it.

Psalty, you nailed it! They fabricate a fiction, that God decrees a plan of Adam disobeying God and committing sin, so that God can employ His Son as the redeemer.

No, my position is: What God allows is not what God wills to happen. I see our disagreement being centered on God wanting Adam to sin. This is blasphemy, making our holy God to be the champion of evil.

There you have it — you can be born again without coming to Christ. Coming to Christ comes after. Then why did John the Baptist, Jesus, and Peter preach “Repent and believe the gospel”? To comply with this Calvinist error, there would be no command in the preaching, since the unsaved cannot...

Yes. When they were ordained or foreknown came first. When they believed to be saved came later.

I don’t belong to CDS. You pridefully glory in your erroneous theology that confuses when you were chosen with when you were saved.

“Don’t get all holy and virtuous on me.” ??? “someone was made through whom sin and death might enter that world” ??? So in your strange theology, Adam was created, not to be an image of God, not to enjoy God’s presence and blessings, not to work in the garden, not to be a companion to Eve...

But what happens when that baptized church member moves to another town? Is it an additional baptism that enables them to join a new church?

When we were chosen is not the same as when we were saved. God chose us before the foundation of the world — but later, at a certain point in our life, we trusted in Jesus as our personal Lord, we were grateful that He died for our sins, and we believed that God raised Jesus from the dead. It...

Habakkuk 1:13 Your eyes are too pure to look on evil, and you cannot tolerate wrongdoing. The bottom line is that sin is NEVER what God wills. God allowed Adam to be tempted and fall, but to say God wanted Adam to fall is wrong. It was the devil who wanted Adam to fall. God knew Adam would...

He probably meant the Barna research organization. https://www.barna.com/

Do not put words in my mouth that I never said. I said: “Option C: Adam (man) can sin, but does not. It was not God’s will that Adam commit sin, but He knew it would happen. Option C is where we are to be now, with the Holy Spirit empowering us.“ Option C is the goal. We are supposed to be...

Wrong. You presented two options and imposed them on God, as though you decide what options God has, and nobody can add any options to your scheme. God did NOT create Adam so that Adam could and would fall. God created Adam, without wanting Adam to fall into sin. It was the devil who wanted...

No, there is a third possibility. Option C: Adam (man) can sin, but does not. It was not God’s will that Adam commit sin, but He knew it would happen. Option C is where we are to be now, with the Holy Spirit empowering us.