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There is no mention in Job of a temple or tabernacle, a priesthood, the ceremonial, dietary or judicial laws, not to mention Moses. That, I think, is the reason why many scholars think the book of Job to be really old. Edit: Sorry, @Deacon! I didn't see your post.

When have I suggested that? Holy and blameless means holy and blameless. Can you show me where the words 'chose' and 'predestined,' not to mention the phrase 'before the foundation of the world,' appear in Colossians 1:21-23, and where 'now' and 'has reconciled,' 'heard' and 'was preached'...

That there are many simularities in Ephesians and Colossians is not at issue; of course there are. But Eph. 1:4-5 is about God's activities before the foundation of the world. Col. 1:21ff is about His activities in time. He chose us to be holy and blameless, and we shall be holy and...

Hello @DaveXR650 Apologies for jumping in on a question directed at you. I had a spare five minutes and thought I'd have a go.

I suppose you mean Col. 1:21-23. 'And you who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works , yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and blameless, and above reproach in His sight - if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and...

Chosen in Christ is not the same thing as being in Christ. Christians are chosen before the foundation of the world, but they are not saved until they trust in Christ.

When?

Proverbs 16:4. 'The LORD has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.' Psalm 115:3. 'But our God is in heaven; He does whatever pleases Him. Isaiah 45:6-7. 'I am the LORD, and there is no other; I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I...

:Roflmao:Roflmao:RoflmaoI did say that there was more to the Calvin quote than I had time to type out. Here you are: '"In Christ." This is Paul's second proof that election is gracious; for if we are chosen in Christ, it is not in ourselves. We were not chosen from some perception of anything...

:rolleyes: Calvin's commentary on Ephesians 1:4. "According as He has chosen us." The foundation and the first cause of our calling, and indeed of all the blessings we receive from God, is here defined to be His eternal election. If we ask why God has called us to enjoy the gospel, why he...

I have, to my shame, never read the Institutes, but you will find election and effectual atonement (I prefer 'effectual' to 'limited') in his commentaries on Ephesians and Romans, and doubtless elsewhere. But it is a great error to suppose that Calvin was the originator of Calvinism. Not only...

I suppose that there were some out of all twelve tribes who were 'scattered out of Jerusalem. A reading of the letter suggests an early date. He would appear to have heard the preaching of the Lord Jesus, and there is no discernible (to me) influence from Peter, Paul or John's letters. Yet...

So you think Marx was the originator of Marxism? You were the one who brought Marx up, not I. If you do think Marx was the originator of Marxism, then the comparison is flawed because Calvin was not the originator of Calvinism. Here you are again, from my signature. 'By grace we are plucked out...

Acts 8:1. At that time a great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.' Acts 11:19. 'Now those who were scattered after the persecution that arose over Stephen travelled as far as...

Was Marx the originator of Marxism?

You are unfortunately obsessed with John Calvin. As I have pointed out, he was not the originator of Calvinism

Calvinism (as opposed to the 'hyper' version), is adamant that "all may come and none will be refused." The problem is that people will not come, not because God prevents them, but because they do not wish to come because theiy have wicked, unbelieving hearts. This was the universal Calvinistic...

Here is an extract from What is an Evangelical by D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones. It is also contained in the larger book called Knowing the Times: 'Let me mention a few things.... which I put into the category of non-essentials. One is the belief in election and predestination. Now I am a Calvinist...

I think you might consider Daniel 9:2. 'In the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.' Now read verses 15-19...

The point is that the Son of Man did not come in AD 70, certainly not in the way indicated in Acts 1:11. Look at a map of the world and find Israel. It's tiny, and was in the 1st Century. The word translated 'cities' in Matt. 10:23 in polis. It denotes a walled city, as opposed to kome, the...