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1 John 2:2, NKJV. 'And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.' The text nowhere says that the Lord Jesus is the propitiation for 'all sin.' Nor does the text state that this propitiation is to be received by faith. The actual text...

I don't follow your logic. Is God the Father propitiated in respect of 'the whole world' by the shed blood of Christ? If so, and you take the view that 'world' means all the people in the world, I don't see how Christ is the propitiation only for those who believe, and I don't understand how...

''Remember, sinner, it is not thy hold of Christ that saves thee - it is Christ; it is not thy joy in Christ that saves thee - it is Christ; it is not even faith in Christ, though that is the instrument - it is Christ's blood and merits; therefore, look not to thy hope, but to Christ, the source...

Perhaps you could become a moderator. Then you could stop people posting on your favourite threads.

John 8:20. '...No one laid hands on Him for His hour had not yet come.' John 12:23. "The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified." The Lord Jesus' hour (time) could not come until the work the Father had given Him was ready for completion. The coming of the Greeks wishing to...

Your definition and timeline of Propitiation are correct. However, you don't seem to have thought through the implications of this. If we take your KJV rendering of 1 John 2:2, “And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John...

I use the NKJV for private use, the 1984 NIV for church I also have KJV (of course!), ESV, NASB, CSB, NRSV, NIV (2011), Jerusalem (!), Recovery Version, Living Bible. The last five I almost never use.

Anthony, I did not say that there was more than one book of life. I pointed out that there are books mentioned in Revelation 20:12 which will be opened on the Day of Judgment which are not the Book of Life. Just so. Books plural; Book of life singular. What I am saying is that to take Exodus...

@Anthony Pritchard, I will be interested to have your take on this verse. Revelation 13:8. 'All who dwell on the earth will worship Him [the beast], whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.' You might also consider Rev. 20:12...

That is correct. All those given to Christ by the Father will respond salvifically and positively. Here you are ignoring verse 39, which tells us that the will of the Father is that the Lord Jesus should lose not even one of those whom He has given Him. Since we know that our Lord always did...

:rolleyes: At the point of our Lord speaking, it has nothing at all to do with anyone responding. Just look again at the text, and its very plain, obvious meaning. The Father has given to the Son a people to redeem, and that is what He will do; not one will be lost. He says the same thing in...

Do I really have to type them out again? OK. In verse 10, we have the 'many sons' brought to glory. Tht is a limitation of 'tasting death for everyone. In verse 11, He calls the ones He died for 'brethren' whom He has sanctified In verse 13, here He is with the children whom God has given Him...

I have quoted John 6:37 about a hundred times before on this forum, but since you and @Anthony Pritchard are quite new here, I will give it again: "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me......." Here is your particular atonement. God has given to the Lord Jesus a vast crowd of people to...

He's not 'inferring' anything. He's showing the meaning from the context, which, frankly, is pretty obvious..

How pathetic! Everyone who is not a Calvinist should read God's word. Period.

Try not to be silly. What possible possible help is it to tell someone that the Lord Jesus died for everyone's sins? What possible encouragement is that to anybody to repent? When I was an unsaved youngster at University, members of the Christian Union were always diligent to tell me that Jesus...

I am just off on a brief holiday, so I don't have much time, but firstly, there is no word for 'man' in the text. Secondly, I quote from Prof. John Murray, to show that @SovereignGrace is not unsupported in his understanding: 'Of whom is the writer speaking in the context? He is speaking of...

Praise the Lord! :D

I think these verses show the extreme danger of bouncing up and down on a single text as if it were a trampoline. If we take the first verse at its plain meaning it would show that God does not obey His own Scriptures, since we also read, 'Yet is pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to...

I find this really droll. Earlier you two were saying that nothing mattered except the very words of Scripture, and now you are all into the Church Fathers. I think you need to make your minds up. The fact is that apostasy was creeping into the churches in the time of the apostles. That is...