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  1. J

    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    A short time later, after a clear simple question from the apostles about their rewards in the kingdom, Jesus Christ, the son of God ,answered with simple words that a below average 5th grader would have no problem understanding. Just a little bit of reason would, without even straining the...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    Ascetic X, thank you for your thoughts on this subject but the language of Mark in Mk 9 surely shows that Jesus is equating the seventh day of the week as the visible kingdom of God. It took place after 6 days. Also he thought that a mountain represented a physical kingdom in the similitudes of...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    God has simply taken something that is common to men and used it as a pattern for a greater truth so we can understand him. I think that is wisdom. He surely isn't constrained by time but we are. So God uses the pattern in our realm to prefigure his work. So, here is an example of both a week...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    ky, none of what I am telling you is necessarily true if you have a different English translation than my KJV. The numbers will not match up. This will not matter one way or the other if God is unconcerned about his numbers and if they are in no way connected to his method of revealing his...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    Of course, AsceticX, I would not want to convince you against your will. But I will say that God has as one of the most important doctrines in his whole Bible that incorporates this formula, the "day of the Lord." This is a prophetic theme appearing in the scriptures a total of 30 times over a...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    I like you ky. I have been meaning to invite you over to visit with our Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Feel free to bring your favorite translation. You will be welcome and you are not that far from Danville. I think I heard you say once that you were near Prestonsburg. Not far at all...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    New Jerusalem is the heavenly city that comes down out of heaven (not to the earth) in the eternal state during the new heaven and the new earth. Picture a satellite city whose light lightens the earth. It is the paradise of God where the Godhead dwells and where the throne of God is. It is the...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    This post is for the purpose of helping to clarify for those who have been confused by their teachers about certain points of God's dispensational divisions between the church and the world, unsaved Israel and the Jewish remnant according to the election of grace, which is the Jewish part of the...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    ky, the feast of the Lord are prophetic in nature. I am going to record for you what God expected under the ceremonial law of Moses for the feast of first fruits. This is Pentecost (means 50). The symbolism for the 2 loafs of fine flower stands for the Jewish believers and the gentile believers...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    Galatians was the first of Paul's letters to churches. It was written in 49 AD. The emphasis of Ga 3:28 is the oneness , or unity of the body. all are equal in the body but there are still parts of the body as is explained in 1 Cor 12. Paul, who wrote Romans in 58 AD said there were Jews in the...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    Following up on my last post let me say that all the apostles and prophets agree that the church of Jesus Christ, with its foundation of Jewish apostles and prophets, eye witnesses of his death burial and resurrection if you will, all agreed that the church and Israel were separate entities, and...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    You guys are wanting to change the subject of the op. The question is in the op and you are silent on it. Let me remind you fellows that Jesus Christ believed that there is a future for Israel, with her 12 tribes, on the earth as late as his journey from Ephraim on the Jordan River where John...
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    Who? Are they culturally not gentiles, socially,,physicall
  14. J

    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    If "who " are no longer gentiles? I was looking for answers more than questions.
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    Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

    See Here: 1 Peter 2:9 But ye (strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 1 Pe 1;1) are a chosen generation, (a generation is 70 years - Psa 90:10) a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath...
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