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    Once Saved, Always Saved

    No, it is not the sincerity of our faith, its fullness and depth, that "persuades" God to say us. That would mean we saved ourselves. No, we are not made children when we are indwelt. We are made spiritual children when we undergo the washing of regeneration, where we are born anew as...
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    What is the Gospel?

    Again, posting truth, salvation is all of grace and nothing of our merit, does not even address the issue. My point is His choice is not based solely on what we believe, but also on His recognition of our commitment and devotion to Christ, making Christ the overriding priority of our lives. So...
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    What is the Gospel?

    No! Please address what I said, these constant attempts to put words in my mouth are not useful. God knows our heart, because scripture says so. God knows who actually believes and who does not. John 6:64.
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    What is the Gospel?

    Works has nothing to do with it and you know that was not what I said. One fine day, someone will actually address what I post!
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    Once Saved, Always Saved

    I believe many of the lost have the capacity to hear and learn from the Father, through the gospel of Christ. Anyone who says the lost are "unable" to seek out God, need to consider Luke 13:24, where many lost people seek eternal life. Some of the lost are indeed unable, Soil #1 of Matthew 13...
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    England

    Note the personal attack, but no denial that Calvinists believe the lost are saved, not by persuasion, but by the compulsion of irresistible grace. Muslims believe in compulsion such as the use of intimidation and force. OTOH, the gospel teaches the lost must believe of their own volition .
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    Folks, this poster thinks we are not called into His kingdom, 1 Peter 2:9, 1 Corinthians 1:9,
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    England

    Do we grow the church by compulsion or by persuasion? Most Christians would say persuasion, even if they really believe in compulsion such as Calvinists. Why do so many Islamic believe their religion can be spread by the sword, such as on October 7th? Is the problem in England that the...
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    What is the Gospel?

    No, we do not need to prove to God what He knows because He knows our mind, our heart, our soul, He knows all about those of His choosing. My point is His choice is not based solely on what we believe, but also on His recognition of our commitment and devotion to Christ, making Christ the...
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    What is the Gospel?

    I disagree. You seem to be saying if we place the correct object in our faith, that will save us. God will be forced to save us because we have placed the right object in our faith. Philippians 3:9 is not talking about God crediting our faith as righteousness, it is talking about the saved...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    John 15:4 NASB “Remain in Me, and I in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself but must remain in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in Me. “I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    Not to put to fine a point on it, but when we are transferred into Christ spiritually, we are then "in Him" and after we undergo the washing of regeneration (thus born anew) we are spiritually indwelt, thus Christ is in us. This "union" is, I believe, our "glorification." Romans 8:30b NASB...
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    What is the Gospel?

    Here is a popular view of the gospel: to "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. What if our belief in Christ's death, burial and resurrection is NOT sufficient for our salvation? What if God must credit...
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    In what sense did Christ die for all sinners?

    It is rather silly to translate a Greek word into an English word or phrase, that then has to be explained using yet a third set of English words or phrases. Translating the Greek noun "hilastērion" (G2435) into "expiation" or "propitiation" or "mercy seat" or "sacrifice of atonement" are...
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    In what sense did Christ die for all sinners?

    If Christ has propitiated the whole of humanity, rather than being the means of reconciliation, Universalism is being taught. Not to put too fine a point on it, one is a noun, referring to Christ as the means of reconciliation as the Lamb of God, and one is a verb referring to the completed act...
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    In what sense did Christ die for all sinners?

    Propitiation does not mean propitiated. Propitiation is footnoted as "means of reconciliation" in the NASB and it is a great translation choice. If Christ had propitiated the whole of humanity, Universalism would be true, but it is of course false, just as the suggested meaning is false...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    Thanks for the response. I addressed your views in posts #3 and 4. Our main difference is I believe we have been spiritually reborn, no longer spiritually dead in sin, but made spiritually alive together with Christ. The transfer from being separated from God to being together with Christ...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    No mention of being "transferred" anywhere in John 17:23. The reference is to the mystical union of the believer with Christ. When God establishes us in Christ, the result is our spiritual union with Christ, we are "in Him" and He is "in us." I believe this creation of our union with Christ...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    "So certain is our arrival in heaven that the apostle puts it into the past tense. But where is our glorified body (Phil. 3:21). It's coming, but not yet." The above snippet from post #2 rewrites scripture according the speculation of man. Is our arrival in Heaven certain if we are saved...
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    How are Those God Saves Glorified?

    In a recent thread, apparently some denied that God has glorified each and every sinner that He saves. However, Romans 8:30 clearly teaches every saved person has been, past tense, glorified. Certainly no sinner has any self generated claim to glory, we are wretched sinners. But, somehow...
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