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I am always amazed at the arrogance of calvinists when they think they were so special that God, before creation, picked them out to be saved.

I have shown many times, on this and other boards, that the calvinist philosophy is based on pagan religions brought into the church by Augustine and carried forward by calvin and later calvinists. So your so called proper theology is just a twisted version of the true biblical message. I find...

But when you ignore context you end up with errors as you have done. Those that are given to the Son are those that have freely trust in Him. Where do you get off saying that only a preselected group will be able to be saved. Secondly how do you even know you are in that group? The best you...

I prefer to deal with facts not conspiracy theories.

I have done so and have been critical of what I see happening here but it seems that those who fall at the feet of Trum* do not do that.

I think if you would actually trust the word of God as written you will see that I do not agree with you Martin. You follow Calvin's misunderstanding of scripture and I trust the actual word of God. As we can see from your post you have to read in the text what you need to find so that it fits...

I find it odd that you fail to read that verse in it's context. But as you said, I have been through this so many times, but I suppose once more won't hurt. While it is true that God elects people [those that believe] to salvation, it is also true they must choose to be saved by a definite act...

Judge him by his own words and actions. That is what you and Ben are failing to do. You need to tale of the rose coloured glasses.

So then since you cannot see their heart you should be judging the reality of what they say.

Your welcome.

I do not listen to the yapping of the Dem's but I do hear what he has said and have seen what he has done. He has shown many times that the rule of law or contracts mean nothing to him. He has made the USA an untrustworthy nation. It is sad to see a once great nation fall to such a low level.

The bible say Gen 1:1 "In the beginning God created..." Whether He created 6000 yrs ago or 6,000,000,000 yrs ago does not change that. The fact is He created. When He created is just people fighting over minor issues.

Actually I just look at what he has said and done. It seems that you have blinders on as far as he is concerned.

Think what you like Ben. He keeps cozying up to the enemy of the US and rejects those that are friends of the US. You seem to be a fanboy of Trum* and can not see the true about him.

To be convinced of something you have to believe that the information is true. KY they may be able to convince you that leprechauns are real as you have already shown that you can be convinced that what is not true is true. Paul already knew the information regarding Christ having risen from...

The Holy Spirit convicts of sin not unto faith. Knowing that you are a sinner does not mean that you will trust in God. But we do see where Paul writing to the Thessalonians says that he had presented the gospel to them with full conviction/assurance. 1Th 1:5

The bible does that quite clearly if you are willing to actually trust what it says. Eph 1:13 And in Him, having heard and believed the word of truth—the gospel of your salvation—you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Actually faith is based on obtaining a set of facts/information regarding something and then making the choice to believe or not believe those facts. Conviction is having an unshakable trust in those facts and the resulting faith/belief.

Iran does not control our oil we have more than enough. Actually you get most of your oil from us. As form a country wanting to pirate the rest of the world, you should look in a mirror Ben. Trying to deflect from the USA not holding to signed agreements is really funny. It would seem that...

Ben you do seem to be missing quite a bit of what is happening here. Perhaps we should just be like what they do in the USA, ignore a signed contract just because you do not like it.