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Why do you keep trying to personalize this to me as if I am personally involved in such things? The thread is about establishing sound doctrine about what is and is not true about demon possession. Discussing that subject at length does not mean that I am "in a place where people would do that...

Let's consider some parallels. Suppose a 2-year-old child is kidnapped because of a lapse in parental inattention in a public place and then trafficked by human traffickers. The child is now being held captive against his will. The child did not choose to be in that state. The child did not give...

How is this a right response to the things that I have been saying? Are you saying that even when people through their sinfulness have put themselves in a position to be possessed, they still even then have a choice of whether they are going to be possessed or not even though they have sinfully...

Yes, I do believe in demons. Multitudes of other Christians also believe in demons, but they deny that certain things can cause demon possession. Because the Bible does not seem to reveal anything specific about what has caused people to be possessed and about what cannot cause possession...

In the first instance, the difference is that I would know and believe that drug cartels exist. Concerning those who do not believe that demons exist, they do knowingly and willingly involve themselves in those activities, but they do not, however, thereby knowingly and willingly give demons...

Not really. People who do not believe that demons exist somehow yet knowingly and willingly are complicit with them in giving them permission to possess these people who do not believe that demons exist? How can someone be considered as knowingly giving permission to something that he does not...

Does the Bible say anywhere specifically that these are the means by which people have been possessed? If so, where does it say those things? If not, why not?

Hmm. Your view about possession seems to require knowing, willing permission given by a person to demons as an essential requirement for a demon to possess a person. Is that so? If so, atheists who do not believe in demons and would engage in occult practices to show that demons do not exist...

So then do you believe that David knowingly gave Satan permission to move him to do that unrighteous census? Did Ananias knowingly allow Satan to fill his heart to lie to the Holy Spirit? More pertinent to this discussion, do you believe that the child that we see in Scripture who was possessed...

True, but such complicity is not the same thing as permission because Scripture speaks of people who were demonically influenced and does not give any indication that they even knew what had happened to them. If that was true for those who were only demonically influenced but not possessed, how...

How is any of this relevant to the multitudes of people that we see in the NT who were possessed of demons? They were all unbelievers who somehow became possessed at some point in their lives. The fact that they were possessed proves that they were not in submission to God and therefore they...

An unbeliever does not submit himself to God. James 4:7 does not apply to unbelievers.

First Corinthians 10 seems to be a passage that likely points to one leading cause of demon possession, as follows. Writing at least more than a decade after Jesus had been crucified, buried, raised, seen of many credible witnesses, and then had ascended to heaven, Paul instructed the believers...

Ok, thanks for the additional explanation. I had no idea what you were getting at with your comments about Matt. 12:43, but I now see how you are understanding what that text reveals. I will give these remarks careful and extended consideration and get back to you about them.

Wrong. I do not have an obsession with demonology. You, on the other hand, seem to be focused on interposing yourself in my discussions with comments that are not germane to the topic of discussion. Furthermore, studying in depth what God has revealed in His Word about demonology is not...

I am sorry that you agree with Ascetic X on this point. Sound demonology is a vitally important doctrine about which many believers need much more careful instruction.

Can you explain further how Mt. 12 supports that view because I am not following you at all. As far as I can tell from Scripture, this world is not currently given to the authority of men. Satan is the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4). The whole world lies in him--that is, in his power (1 John...

Why do you think that "some kind of permission granted by the individual for a devil" was something that definitely was so? Any passages come to mind to support that view? Vacancy of the sort that you are talking about is true for all unbelievers, but we only see a subset of them who were...

The NT indisputably and emphatically reveals the reality of demon possession. Concerning those people who were demon possessed, one of two things had to have been true: (1) They were born demon possessed or (2) they became demon possessed at some later point in their lives. The NT does not seem...

On the flip side, many people probably hardly ever read the whole Bible and probably just live on things like the Daily Bread, verse apps, etc. There is no substitute for reading the entire Bible itself. It is true that God has given gifted people as teachers, pastors, etc. to instruct us, but...