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  1. M

    Death FOR Sin

    As usual, you miss all that is significant in the text. Stauros is the Greek word rendered 'cross' in the N.T., and you are right to indicate that crosses were made of wood. Wood, as you appear to know, comes from trees. So far so banal. But Deuteronomy 21:23 tells us that 'he who is hanged...
  2. M

    Death FOR Sin

    Do you not believe 1 Peter 2:24?
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    Death FOR Sin

    You just did it again! I accused you of eviscerating the text. To eviscerate is to rip the guts out of a creature. I accused you of butchering the text. To butcher an animal is to chop bits off it. That is what you keep doing to 1 Peter 2:24. The Lord Jesus 'bore our sins in His own body on...
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    Death FOR Sin

    Not on the cross; on the tree. Why do you suppose that Peter, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit used the word xulon instead of stauron? Yes, according to this passage. What does it mean that 'by His wounds you have been healed'? Do you suppose that this really means, 'by His wounds, you...
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    Death FOR Sin

    @JonC, I will do you the credit of saying that you think you believe the Biblical texts, but you end up butchering them so that you can disregard them, as I showed you in post #32 and present buying cinema tickets as some sort of evidence against substitution.
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    Death FOR Sin

    You don't believe the Biblical texts. You should stop saying you do becaise it simply isn't true. And no one else on this board appears to believe what you are pushing is the Biblical text. If there is someone, he keeping very quiet about it. I have provided them over and over again in...
  7. M

    Death FOR Sin

    Don't forget the rule of cinema tickets.
  8. M

    Death FOR Sin

    I suppose that 'we' here is the 'royal we' since you are the only person who keep up your nonsense. But you have not begun to show that redemption is not substitution. If you think that the buying of cinema tickets is either of those things, you are away with the fairies. Nor have you begun to...
  9. M

    Christ's Death

    Proverbs 6:1-5. Here and in Proverbs 11:15, we are strongly urged not to become surety or guarantor, either for a friend or a stranger because we would become liable for all the debts of the other party should he default. In becoming Surety for the New Covenant, the Lord Jesus became liable...
  10. M

    Death FOR Sin

    'Nuff said.
  11. M

    Christ's Death

    Because it is what the Bible makes exceedingly clear as I continually point out. Moreover, there are multiple words which are translated 'oppressed' in the Bible The one which is used in Isaiah 53:7 is so translated in only one other place: Isaiah 3:5. If you read the previous verse as well...
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    Christ's Death

    Do you really not see a difference between bearing our sins and bearing our sorrows? For the second time, if I bear someone's sorrows, I don't take them away; I comfort as best I can and sympathize, and hopefully provide some relief, but sorrow for a dead spouse or child can never be taken...
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    Without Christ's Substitutionary Death, There Could Be No Gospel

    It is just as well if it doesn't take a language expert to determine these things, because you sure aren't one. I have pointed out that to bear someone's sins and to bear his sorrows require two different verbs in the Greek precisely because they are two different things Not at all...
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    Without Christ's Substitutionary Death, There Could Be No Gospel

    Matthew 6:12. "And forgive us our debts [Gk. opheilema], as we forgive our debtors." Colossians 2:14 (NKJV margin). '....Having wiped out the certificate of debt with its requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the...
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    Without Christ's Substitutionary Death, There Could Be No Gospel

    As I wrote, I am quite happy to let others judge the meaning of Isaiah 53. It is very straightforward. Adding this or that verse to the extract that I quoted in post #19 does not change the meaning of the extract. If you are going to pose as some sort of guru who has mastered the mystery of...
  16. M

    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    Shouldn't it be 'a ransom for many'(Matthew 20:28 etc.)?
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    The scapegoat suffered the same fate as those who were to be 'cut off from their people' (e.g. Lev. 7:20, 21, 25, 27). The life is in the blood and the shedding of blood speaks of the atonement for sins by the killing of the animals. The tent and the altar do not sin; they need to be cleansed...
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    Without Christ's Substitutionary Death, There Could Be No Gospel

    With you I am never quite sure what is a spelling mistake and what isn't, but if you meant to say that PSA takes a literal approach to Scripture, I completely agree with you. :D For the rest, I am quite happy to let others read the verses and see what is so very clearly portrayed there.
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    Hebrew Word Study - "Kaphar" (Strong's H3722)

    The atonement is made first, and this brings about the cleansing. The scapegoat is sent away from the people and is said to 'bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited land' (Lev.16:22). In the expression of 'a goat for Azazel' in lieu of 'sacapegoat,' 'Azazel' can have the meaning...
  20. M

    Without Christ's Substitutionary Death, There Could Be No Gospel

    This is true. I have long since set aside what you think and prefer to believe the Biblical text, which is very simple and straightforward if one reads it without pre-suppositions. 'He was pierced for our transgressions; He was crushed for our iniquities. The chastisement for our peace was...
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