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Russia has a long history of quiet, peaceful regime change via a bullet to the head. Oligarchs and Generals want stability, if Putin can deliver that, he remains in power. If Putin threatens THEIR stability, then his successor will have to see how well they can do. That is, after all, how Putin...

I saw an interesting analysis of the USSR at the time of its fall. An economist visited Russia in the late 1980's (about the time the USSR was breaking up) and noted that stores in Moscow had goods stamped "IMPORTED" in Russian rather than a country of origin. This designated something made in...

I agree that it is inconceivable to me how Ukraine will recapture its lost territory, however it is not the place of ANYONE in the USA (including President Trump) to tell Ukraine that they MUST trade land for peace. Negotiating for peace is a decision to be made by Ukrainians. What the US and...

I think the enslavement of Ukraine in a revived USSR is a heck of a price to pay for 6 months of peace (until Putin invades the NEXT country). That policy didn’t work to get Germany to stop attacking and live at peace in the 1930’s-40’s … so I see little hope that we can sate the Russian...

I always found Jesus practical example to be helpful ... Matthew 10:5-15 [ESV] These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And proclaim as you go, saying, 'The kingdom...

On the plus side, we are on PAGE 8 ... it will all be over soon.:Cool

I am going to apologize in advanced, because I am going to be pendantic. All I will say in my defense, is that I hope to make a point and am not just striving to be a "P.I.T.A." When I was 6 years old, I took a ten dollar bill from my mother's purse, bought something that I wanted that she had...

Do you want to talk about it ... or is that all you wanted to say? I can accept the later (that is your right) ... but admit a bit of disappointment since I had secretly hoped for the former. :)

What does it mean to "bear our sins in his body"? Can you "prove" a meaning from other scripture rather than just speculating? If not (if the definition cannot be clarified in scripture) then WHATEVER we (you or I) assume that phrase to mean is our eisegesis and assumption into the verse rather...

Respectfully, opinions are like belly buttons ... ... I am more impressed with well exegeted scripture. [It still needed to be clarified that the "giants of the faith" supported PSA rather than refuted it since she had misunderstood my statement.]

I wonder if part of the problem is a need to be RIGHT. [I know that is MY Achilles heel]. :)

My 'bugbear' is transferred wrath. I don't really see that except as a "logical conclusion" that follows from theological assumptions. Of course Jesus suffered and of course it was "because of" our sin ... but did GOD punish Jesus (people didn't think so for a LONG time)? Was the suffering...

Absolutely not my view. It was the rebuttal to my question ... it was a well thought out response ... it just came after 10 pages of false accusations by others, so I was more ready to quit the forum than I was interested in a long engagement. I just thought that a well crafted argument (even...

Personally, I really wish it were possible to DISCUSS this subject (as distinct from debating this or arguing over this) because I see LOTS of small details that I would really like to discuss in a friendly manner. Here is an example: On the CROSS, Jesus stated "My God, why have you forsaken...

PART 3: (by John Bauer) Regarding death: Since Christ bore the death penalty due to sin for believers, we will never perish, which is a permanent, ontological, or eternal separation from God (the second death). physical death is no longer dreadful but a threshold; the elect "sleep" in Christ...

PART 2: (by John Bauer) Here are some more scriptures with either explicit or implicit penal substitutionary language: Romans 4:25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification. Romans 5:8-9 God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were...

@JonC Since you have requested a defense of PSA from scripture, I thought that I would share this well thought out response from John Bauer. It was offered on another forum, but, unfortunately, it was offered after 10 pages of my being told I was denying Christ by questioning PSA ... so I was...

1 Peter 2:21-25 [ESV] 21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps. 22 He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth. 23 When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered...

Point of clarification: the giants of the faith taught me that PSA (was that screaming?) was true, it was when I went looking for the scripture that said what they taught that I came up dry. [that was whispering, just for you.]

LOL … right next to the verse that says Jesus DIDN’T eat an ice cream cone and the Paragraph that Doesn’t explain how God didn’t created the aliens that didn’t build the Pyramids. You are asking for proof of a negative … that is typically considered cheating. What I FOUND when I went looking...