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@Silverhair False teaching. God gives the Gift of believing on Christ Phil 1:29 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; The word given is aorist passive, and its the word charizomai: to give graciously, give freely...

@Silverhair False accusation

Not one of those scriptures utter the blasphemy, Christs Death doesnt save anyone. Also 1 Cor 15:17 confirms that Jesus death saved them from sin, when He rose it was a testimony to the fact He put away their sins, and thats what God gave them Faith to believe. Now if He had not risen from the...

When did I deny those verses ? I dont recall, however you have blatantly denied the saving death of Christ, saying it didnt save anyone. Why do you even call Jesus the Saviour ?

You are saying the Death of Christ saved no one, what part of the word of God says that ?

@Silverhair Thats just as bad as saying, Christ death saved no one. Very Christ dishonoring.

You are saying the Death of Christ saved no one, what part of the word of God says that ?

Do you think a natural man has the Spirit of God ? Yes or no second question, does a born again person has both a carnal man and a Spiritual nature ? If so which one understands the things of the Spirit ? Duh

You have unashamedly made one of the most Christ dishonoring statements a professing christian can make about the Death of the Saviour. Is that what you around preaching as the good news Gospel. Hey, Christ died for your sins, but that didn't save you, isnt that good news ?

Guess what ? I have read the bolded many many times, and Im convinced that Faith and believing in God are results of the redemptive Death of the Lamb, they were redeemed from a vain manner of life, meaning worthless false religion of judaism and given Faith in Christ. So the passage contradicts...

It doesnt say everyone without exception.

More speaking against the saving, reconciling death of Christ. Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. They are saved, reconciled, accepted in the beloved, in Gods Favor. The word...

I dont agree with your Christ dishonoring statement," the death of Christ saved no one" that blasphemy isnt written nowhere in scripture friend.

Another passage of scripture that Illustrates and proves that Christs death effects saving/converting results is 1 Pet 1:18-21 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers...

@Silverhair It doesnt say its not the elect

@Silverhair So then you said it, and its heresy. It does save, it reconciled the elect to God Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Reconciliation is a part of salvation, the...

@Silverhair No, you deny that Jesus death saves, I dont agree with that heresy. His Resurrection also saves, its the source of the New Birth. The Death of Christ has that saving effect, the resurrection proves it.

Thats the elect

@Silverhair So you never stated that b4 ? That the Death of Christ saved nobody ?

Everyone Christ died for were redeemed from the curse of the law, so the ones that are cursed into everlasting fire, He couldn't have died for them