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  1. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    No, I don't believe God "changed" His Word, at least not after the fact. Like some of the OT quotations in the NT aren't one-for-one like the Hebrew, so He "changed" or "repurposed" OT passages to fit a particular thing in the NT. That, however, is not the same as what you seem to think I've...
  2. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Oh, I agree that the original language texts have been preserved, but I also believe that other languages have preserved them as well. It's not really a lack of preservation if a word or two were added, then, later removed to conform it back to its original state. Now, if I were trying to say a...
  3. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    The fact is, there is evidence to support the KJV/TR reading, even if you don't want to admit it. You don't seem intent on actually discussing, so if you don't want to have a discussion worth having, then I will see myself out. God never said His preserved Word would only be in Greek Codexes...
  4. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Whilst I cannot confirm or deny your statement (I don't know Greek), I do know there is evidence outside of Codxes alone. Nick Sayer's lists Tertullian, Beatus of Liébana, and the Book of Armagh. In all honesty, I find this to be underwhelming, but I think we should also consider the critical...
  5. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    First, prove it was an error.
  6. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    1) "God" is not original to the text. There's evidence in support of the ommission of it. I'm not going to try and pass off someone else's work on this topic as my own, so here's a link: Revelation 1:8 - Textus Receptus 2) The phrase "which is, and which was, and which is to come" is one of the...
  7. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    I don't see how you could come to such a conclusion. You asked if the KJV taught Baptism by immersion exclusively. I believe it does, but on basis that it transliterates (instead of translating) the Greek, which means to immerse.
  8. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    I'm going to assume the reason is because previous translations (like Tyndale, Geneva, Bishops') use it as well as the term being used by English Christians.
  9. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    I disagree with the framing of the question. I believe immersion is the only valid form of Baptism, but the KJV simply uses a transliteration. I'm glad it did, because as Anglicans, the KJV translators likely wouldn't have translated it as immersion. Now, because it's a transliteration, the...
  10. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    In 1699, Edinburgh had a KJV without the Apocrypha: Then, in 1700, London had a printing without the Apocrypha:
  11. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Or they were bound originally without them. It seems like a huge leap to say all KJV's without the Apocrypha ALL don't have it simply because some may have removed it at rebinding.
  12. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    That's assuming we agree those are the "standard editions." I simply believe that God worked it out that the KJV is technically the majority text now. So while information is more avaliable for those printings, the fact remains that KJV's without the Apocrypha (whether you think proper or not)...
  13. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Based on his statement, it seems most likely he had a Bible without the Apocrypha included. If you look at the translation effort for the KJV, King James didn't have any say. The translators often didn't even follow the rules the King set. How do you know what I would or wouldn't do? Please, do...
  14. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Don't presume to know how I feel. I'm not embarrassed in the slightest. In fact, I'm glad they translated the Apocrypha, I OWN a copy of it. It's a great resource to study, and it's good for one can realize why they aren't Scripture. Additionally, I find it highly improbable that the tens of...
  15. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Baptism is just a transliteration of the Greek. Thus, the question you're really asking is whether the Greek supports immersion only—which I believe the Bible teaches Baptism by immersion.
  16. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    This us ignorant. King James did not find them "important." In fact, he himself states that he OMITTED THEM! "And as to the Apocryphe bookes, I omit them, because I am no Papist. As I said before; and indeed some of them are no wayes like the dytement of the Spirit of God." King James I, in...
  17. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    That would require there to be errors in the KJV. However, there aren't any, and no one has actually been able to provide one. Simply all the "errors" are either 1) not errors or 2) are actually superior translations.
  18. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    Perhaps it would do you well to go through photoscans of various KJV's. It was a lot of work, but I have gone through many, ranging from 1638 into the 1800's, finding KJV's without the Apocrypha. My objection to them is based on the preservation promises of the Bible, as well as contradictions...
  19. Servant of Jehovah

    Questions for those holding to KJVO Position

    You're limiting your scope to one single passage. I'm not even completely convinced that the different Greek words have that big of a meaning difference, but as I've mentioned and will mention again, I do not know Greek. If you take the Greek words and look at how they're translated throughout...
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