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[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I don't know God's mind regarding Trump or Biden. However, I suspect God allowed Trump to become President as judgment upon the United States, and specifically the US church, as a way of separating Christians from "Christian Nationalists." It has been a clarifying five years for me, recognizing that things were not actually the way I thought them to be. …

I don't know God's full mind regarding Obama or Hillary or Biden. However, I suspect God allowed Obama and now more especially Biden to become President as judgment upon the United States, and more specifically the US church, as a way of separating Christians from “Christian Marxists.”

It was a clarifying eight years for me under Obama, but I recognized early on that things were even worse than I had thought them to be. The next four spent viciously attacking Trump more than confirmed what had been exposed under Obama, so that those who wanted Biden to expand the Obama evils are wholly without excuse.​

 

[Salty]

Back in 1988, Robert McMillan ran for the US Senate from New York
He lost the race against Senator Pat Moynihan by more than 2 million votes, only receiving 31%

I interviewed Mr. McMillan on my radio show about 1 month before the election.
One thing he mentioned was that If you do not respect life (esp being pro-abortion) then there is nothing else to respect.

So with that in mind - I agree with RT

I don't know God's full mind regarding Obama or Hillary or Biden. However, I suspect God allowed Obama and now more especially Biden to become President as judgment upon the United States, and more specifically the US church, as a way of separating Christians from “Christian Marxists..​

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[Reformed1689]

We compare what scripture says about the Kingdom of God and the teachings of Jesus. Former President Trump advocates almost the exact opposite of the morality and attitudes of the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:21-48), making it, literally, anti-Christ. Not only that, his lack of compassion for refugees (Leviticus 19:34), his desperate need for people to affirm and serve him (Luke 22:24-27), and his propensity to lie about anything and everything disqualifies him from leadership (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

Biden has issues too, but not to the extreme Trump has.

We aren't talking about the Kingdom of God, we are talking about the United States. We aren't electing a pastor, we are electing a political leader. Please understand the difference. Lack of compassion for refugees? First, the Leviticus passage was given specifically to Israel. Second, how did Donald Trump NOT do that? Do tell! 2 Timothy has nothing to do with political leadership. Apparently you do not understand the difference. And many of his "lies" are debatable as to whether or not they were actual lies.

So you have no actual substance to your post. Do try again.

 

[AustinC]

And I believe Biden is there as a judgement on the United States. Who is right? Me or you?

Both Trump and Biden have been given as judgment upon the US. Trump was used by God to separate the wheat from the chaff in the church. It is obvious that Donald Trump has been a vile man for decades with a disdain for God and an unrepentant heart. Yet, so many in the church made shrines to Donald Trump and set him up as their messiah. That, my friend, is antichrist and self identified Christians placed their faith in Donald Trump...and some still do so. That reveals a wickedness in the church where people turn from God to a cult of personality to trust in. What a revelation of the worldliness in the church.

 

[Reformed1689]

Both Trump and Biden have been given as judgment upon the US. Trump was used by God to separate the wheat from the chaff in the church. It is obvious that Donald Trump has been a vile man for decades with a disdain for God and an unrepentant heart. Yet, so many in the church made shrines to Donald Trump and set him up as their messiah. That, my friend, is antichrist and self identified Christians placed their faith in Donald Trump...and some still do so. That reveals a wickedness in the church where people turn from God to a cult of personality to trust in. What a revelation of the worldliness in the church.

I do not know of anyone in the church that made a shrine to Trump or set him up as a messiah. Hyperbole much? You are being EXTREMELY judgemental.

 

[Salty]

I do not know of anyone in the church that made a shrine to Trump or set him up as a messiah. Hyperbole much? You are being EXTREMELY judgemental.

It appears that the liberals tried to make it look like that the Religious right was setting up shrines to Trump.
Sad part is that some actually believe that. You know, the more you tell a lie - the easier it is to believe.

 

[Reformed1689]

Trump was used by God to separate the wheat from the chaff in the church.

That's a bit over the top.

 

[AustinC]

I do not know of anyone in the church that made a shrine to Trump or set him up as a messiah. Hyperbole much? You are being EXTREMELY judgemental.

It appears that the liberals tried to make it look like that the Religious right was setting up shrines to Trump.
Sad part is that some actually believe that. You know, the more you tell a lie - the easier it is to believe.

Perhaps you missed all the Trump roadside paraphernalia shops, the Trump flags, the Trump banners, hats, jackets, scarfs, etc., worn and shown off like a good Roman Catholic who sets up a shrine to a favorite saint in the corner of their backyard. I drove by the shrines on a daily basis and even heard men in the church talking about Trump rather than going into adult Sunday School classes. It was shameful to observe in the church.
The Bible tells us that judgment comes first upon the church.

1 Peter 4:16-19
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And “If the righteous is scarcely saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Therefore let those who suffer according to God’s will entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing good.

 

[Reformed1689]

Perhaps you missed all the Trump roadside paraphernalia shops, the Trump flags, the Trump banners, hats, jackets, scarfs, etc., worn and shown off like a good Roman Catholic who sets up a shrine to a favorite saint in the corner of their backyard.

Hmm, I thought you said CHURCHES were building shrines to Trump. Changing your story I see. So you are being dishonest.

 

[Revmitchell]

I do not know of anyone in the church that made a shrine to Trump or set him up as a messiah. Hyperbole much? You are being EXTREMELY judgemental.

you guys have got to stop feeding it

 

[AustinC]

Hmm, I thought you said CHURCHES were building shrines to Trump. Changing your story I see. So you are being dishonest.

Re-read, I said Christians.
Why do you hold Donald Trump in such high regard?

 

[Reformed1689]

Re-read, I said Christians.
Why do you hold Donald Trump in such high regard?

Let me be clear, do I think Trump is perfect? Goodness no. Do I think he has moral issues? Absolutely. However, I would venture to say statistically that so do the majority of members on this board. Do I think he was a great president? YES. Do I think the country was safer and more prosperous under his administration due to his policies? Again, yes.

So, do I hold Trump the man in high regard? No. Do I hold the Trump Administration in high regard? Absolutely.

 

[AustinC]

Let me be clear, do I think Trump is perfect? Goodness no. Do I think he has moral issues? Absolutely. However, I would venture to say statistically that so do the majority of members on this board. Do I think he was a great president? YES. Do I think the country was safer and more prosperous under his administration due to his policies? Again, yes.

So, do I hold Trump the man in high regard? No. Do I hold the Trump Administration in high regard? Absolutely.

You cannot turn him into two men. Either he's a narcissist or he's not.

 

[Reformed1689]

You cannot turn him into two men. Either he's a narcissist or he's not.

Who said anything about turning him into two different men? I sure didn't. But what about Trump's POLICIES and his actual ADMINISTRATION did you not like? Please explain.

 

[Salty]

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[AustinC]

Who said anything about turning him into two different men? I sure didn't. But what about Trump's POLICIES and his actual ADMINISTRATION did you not like? Please explain.

You did. You dislike the person, but like the policy.
That's like disliking Hitler, but applauding his policies.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

You did. You dislike the person, but like the policy.
That's like disliking Hitler, but applauding his policies.

That’s getting it exactly backward. Hitler was hated for his policies, not because of some personal immorality. Jimmy Carter is probably a swell guy, but he was a terrible president and his Marxist leanings make him a bad ex-president.

 

[Reformed1689]

You did. You dislike the person, but like the policy.
That's like disliking Hitler, but applauding his policies.

Wow, you really are over the top.

 

[777]

move on. move on, while I post on and on about mean old orange man

you guys have got to stop feeding it

Yeah, but it's hard to do when they say things like this:

[Yeah, but how comes in 2016 Trump actually did NOTHING about the fraud, when he won; and when he lost in 2020, he goes to court??? This is like a spoilt brat, who can't get his own way!/QUOTE]

and it goes uncorrected - Trump tried to start some commission to investigate fraud in every state, the Democrat-ruled states wouldn't comply and left-wing groups sued to shut it all down. There's an audit going on right now in Arizona, and from what I hear, it's "interesting" what they've found so far.

 

[Revmitchell]

Wow, you really are over the top.

It’s all or nothing with them. Leads me to believe there’s a hint of insincerity