“Fully vaccinated “

[Two Wings]

yes, water has become a major issue

I'm just saying that the planet was designed for far more than 8 billion (I initially said 8) .... it had far more than 1/3 of the mass as land and it was properly hydrated. If we hadn't choked in the beginning, what a wonderful place it'd be, but all creation testifies to God.

the condition of the remaining 1/3 being so arid ... the concentration of people in cities/mega cities ... it's contributing to the scenario which will invite the one-world govt.

I know it's coming. I don't welcome IT of itself, but only that it means ... we're going home really soon.

 

[xlsdraw]

God is Sovereign. He allows what He allows. And He does it because He loves us. Sadly, without chastening, we are rotten. Sin is painful to everyone and everything. When Satan is bound, the current hardships will not exist. But they will continue until Satan is bound. Come quickly Lord Jesus.

 

[xlsdraw]

God is Sovereign. He allows what He allows. And He does it because He loves us. Sadly, without chastening, we are rotten. Sin is painful to everyone and everything. When Satan is bound, the current hardships will not exist. But they will continue until Satan is bound. Come quickly Lord Jesus.

We should be thanking, praising, and blessing God that He isn't going to reduce us to just 8 people again.

 

[Two Wings]

thanks Wingman. I was just reading this in my email!

the comparison of total deaths is stunning. Will be looking to see what '21's reveals.

.7604%????

Actually ... I think '21 may be telling.

IDK what the increase would be to represent the same factor as the life insurance policy claims for the 3Q21 ... but it's probably more than .0004%

So ... there ... to you spin doctors ... gonna need to alter the death stats to reflect .76%

but ... that'd be a second consecutive post pandemic year precisely the same as the last pre-pandemic year.


Where's that dude with the hobson's choice and sweating brow?

 

[AustinC]

yes, water has become a major issue

I'm just saying that the planet was designed for far more than 8 billion (I initially said 8) .... it had far more than 1/3 of the mass as land and it was properly hydrated. If we hadn't choked in the beginning, what a wonderful place it'd be, but all creation testifies to God.

the condition of the remaining 1/3 being so arid ... the concentration of people in cities/mega cities ... it's contributing to the scenario which will invite the one-world govt.

I know it's coming. I don't welcome IT of itself, but only that it means ... we're going home really soon.

Referencing another thread...
Texas is so big that every human in the world could have an 80ft by 80 ft living space and live in Texas. The rest of the world could be without human habitation. That should give perspective on the number of humans. Now feeding all of us is the issue.

 

[Two Wings]

Referencing another thread...
Texas is so big that every human in the world could have an 80ft by 80 ft living space and live in Texas. The rest of the world could be without human habitation. That should give perspective on the number of humans. Now feeding all of us is the issue.

yeah, IDK how we traipsed off into this here.

 

[Salty]

Referencing another thread...
Texas is so big that every human in the world could have an 80ft by 80 ft living space and live in Texas. The rest of the world could be without human habitation. That should give perspective on the number of humans. Now feeding all of us is the issue.

and then we have the other 49 States/commonwealths to grow all the food we need!

 

[Two Wings]

I'm reminded of a great Chris LeDoux song here.

"I'm country"

"Come on boys keep singing those country songs who knows maybe we'l convert allthese city folks into country folks and they'll all move out to the country and then the country wont be country anymore. Hold on. Wait a minute. Whoa!"

 

[canadyjd]

Look at agriculture and rethink your analysis. Population centers are competing with agriculture for water. Crop land is being pulled out to save water….

Luckily for us, the surface of the planet is about 75% covered with water. Not only that, the water in the oceans evaporate on a regular basis going up into the air. When enough water vapor gets into the air, it begins to condense forming droplets of water that get bigger and bigger until they weigh enough to fall back to the ground. We call it rain.

peace to you

 

[percho]

A few years ago I read, whether true or not I do not know, all the people in the world could stand in the city limits of Jacksonville FL and not touch one another.

 

[Aaron]

I'm not saying you are a stupid person, but that is a very stupid post.

If an employer requires something I am not willing to give then I would leave that employee.

While your idea that business owners should be forced to acquiesce to the demands of the employees is more common today, it is a dangerous practice that undermines the principle of ownership.

You are more than willing to limit the "principle of ownership" when in line with your opinions. You wouldn't argue for the right of the phone companies to record or censor your phone calls, even though communication companies are private entities. And would you argue for the freedom of an employer to hire only whites? Or men? To require you to submit your financial records? To open your homes to their searches and seizures as a condition of employment?

Leftists tout the 'liberties' of private ownership only when it tends to further their agenda. Any other time private corporations are just dirty, greedy capitalists.

So it's not the principle of ownership you're concerned with, but with an agenda you favor.

 

[JonC]

You are more than willing to limit the "principle of ownership" when in line with your opinions. You wouldn't argue for the right of the phone companies to record or censor your phone calls, even though communication companies are private entities. And would you argue for the freedom of an employer to hire only whites? Or men? To require you to submit your financial records? To open your homes to their searches and seizures as a condition of employment?

Leftists tout the 'liberties' of private ownership only when it tends to further their agenda. Any other time private corporations are just dirty, greedy capitalists.

So it's not the principle of ownership you're concerned with, but with an agenda you favor.

No. I favor private ownership. But I also favor Christians living within the limits of the law as long as it dies not mean disobedience to God. Anti-discrimination laws make it illegal to fiscreminae based on race. In a moral society these laws would be unnecessary.

That said, companies can hire based on race. Colleges can admit students based on race. Now it is looking like medical treatment may be prioritized based on race. The SCOTUS made racial discrimination legal if it favors a minority race.

It is the principle of ownership that concerns me. Not because of vaccines (I couldn't care less here) but because I see the agenda you advocate here you strip rights if they support your views to have a dangerous future.

You are setting principles that could be used against Christians in the future.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

Be honest. You still would look for an escape clause to not be vaccinated. This whole thing is about you demanding independent control with no one telling you what to do.
At some point, you and others need to admit that your revolt is entirely coming from your own pride and unwillingness to submit to God ordained authority.

It doesn't seem like godly wisdom to either get a vaccine that has not had the proper test trials and is being pushed by a corrupt and godless government nor does it seem wise to promote something like that as biblical submission to government.

 

[Reformed1689]

While your idea that business owners should be forced to acquiesce to the demands of the employees is more common today, it is a dangerous practice that undermines the principle of ownership.

And owners do no dictate what employees do to their bodies.

 

[Reformed1689]

It doesn't seem like godly wisdom to either get a vaccine that has not had the proper test trials and is being pushed by a corrupt and godless government nor does it seem wise to promote something like that as biblical submission to government.

Vaccine doesn't even work for the latest variant according to Pfizer.

 

[JonC]

It doesn't seem like godly wisdom to either get a vaccine that has not had the proper test trials and is being pushed by a corrupt and godless government nor does it seem wise to promote something like that as biblical submission to government.

I think it is more an issue of faithfulness. It is not right for you, or anybody else, to question Christians who were vaccinated. At the same time, it is not right to question those who decline to be vaccinated.

I related my experience. I prayed about the vaccine and God comforted me in the decision to be vaccinated. Not only this, but it served His kingdom (I was able to see the fruit of my obedience to God).

But if a believer was convicted to refrain from being vaccinated then he or she may have a similar account....minus the vaccine.

We cannot judge other people based on our convictions or callings.

I hope Christians continue to trust God in this issue. If called to minister overseas...or in certain areas.... this may include being vaccinated, and if do I pray they will do so without fear.

If convicted to abstain from a vaccine I pray they will have the courage to do so without fear.

Were the government to mandate the vaccine we would have a different debate.

 

[JonC]

Pfizer on their vaccine and the omnicron varient:

• Preliminary laboratory studies demonstrate that three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine neutralize the Omicron variant (B.1.1.529 lineage) while two doses show significantly reduced neutralization titers
• Data indicate that a third dose of BNT162b2 increases the neutralizing antibody titers by 25-fold compared to two doses against the Omicron variant; titers after the booster dose are comparable to titers observed after two doses against the wild-type virus which are associated with high levels of protection
• As 80% of epitopes in the spike protein recognized by CD8+ T cells are not affected by the mutations in the Omicron variant, two doses may still induce protection against severe disease

Pfizer and BioNTech Provide Update on Omicron Variant | Pfizer

 

[Salty]

And owners do no dictate what employees do to their bodies.

To some extant - YES - for example - no non-natural hair, required clothing, excessive piercing, tattoos, and ect.

 

[JonC]

To some extant - YES - for example - no non-natural hair, required clothing, excessive piercing, tattoos, and ect.

I have to be clean shaven .

The company wants me to wear shorts and a t-shirt when dressing out, but I have to wear long pants any other time. Kinda a pain.

 

[Reformed1689]

To some extant - YES - for example - no non-natural hair, required clothing, excessive piercing, tattoos, and ect.

Aside from tatoos, that is not the same thing. Tatoos they can require you to cover but can't say you can't get one.