“The prodigal son and the unjust Steward”

[Oseas3]

Well, here are the verses from Revelation 1. Perhaps you could tell me where it says Jesus sent His younger brother to Patmos:

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send [it] to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea." Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. His head and hair [were] white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; His feet [were] like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, "Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. "I [am] He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.” (Re 1:10-18 NKJV)

The description above is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD gave unto JESUS, to shew unto His servants(specifically) things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His messenger unto His servant John-Revelation 1:1:

 

[David Lamb]

The description above is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD gave unto JESUS, to shew unto His servants(specifically) things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His messenger unto His servant John-Revelation 1:1:

But that doesn't mention a younger brother of Jesus. Neither the angelic messenger nor John are described in such a way.

 

[Oseas3]

But that doesn't mention a younger brother of Jesus. Neither the angelic messenger nor John are described in such a way.

Didn't you still understand? What my Father GOD gave unto JESUS, was to show unto His servants, specifically.

 

[David Lamb]

Didn't you still understand? What my Father GOD gave unto JESUS, was to show unto His servants, specifically.

I understood you to say that the younger brother of Jesus was sent to Patmos. You said: "By the way,JESUS sent his younger BROTHER to the isle of Patmos." You'd previously said that the Holy Spirit is the brother of Jesus. From other replies here, I see that I am not the only person to find such teachings strange and unbiblical. Sorry.

 

[Tenchi]

Let us consider the prophetic meaning of the parable of the prodigal son.

Where in the parable of the Prodigal Son, or its immediate context in the Gospel of Luke, is it stated that there is a "prophetic meaning" to the story? On what grounds in the parable itself do you rest the idea of the parable being prophetic?

Considering that the Gospel of Luke is entirely devoted to the events that relate to those called “vnto the marriage supper of the Lambe” (Rev.19:9)(KJV611), it is easier for us to understand what period of time is spoken of in the parable of the prodigal son.

And the basis for what you assert here? How do justify it? On what grounds do you claim that "the Gospel of Luke is entirely devoted to the events that relate to those called "unto the marriage supper of the Lamb"? There is a great deal communicated in Luke's (or should I say, Paul's?) Gospel and it doesn't seem to me that much of what is communicated is "entirely devoted" to the "marriage supper of the Lamb."

In this parable, we are shown the events related to the people of Israel in the second half of Daniel's last week, on the day of the Enthronement and Marriage of the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as on the eve of eternity, when the 1000 years of peace will end.

??? Where is any of this even implied in the parable? I can see in the parable that Jesus was addressing the resistance of the Pharisees to accepting sinners (Luke 15:1), who were repentant and wanting to return to God, but it seems totally eisegetical to impose a prophetic layer onto the story.

 

[Oseas3]

I understood you to say that the younger brother of Jesus was sent to Patmos. You said: "By the way,JESUS sent his younger BROTHER to the isle of Patmos." You'd previously said that the Holy Spirit is the brother of Jesus. From other replies here, I see that I am not the only person to find such teachings strange and unbiblical. Sorry.

It is marvellous. GOD the Father said unto JESUS:-> Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.(And JESUS said to the Father:-> John 17:10:->And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them-> (in His true disciples, of course).

GOD, the Father, said unto JESUS:-> this thy brother was dead, and is alive again(Revelation 1:18); and was lost, and is found, It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad. The younger brother of JESUS still in the satanic environment of the Devil where he was still living, had arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off his Father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. And commanded: Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a RING(an alliance) on his hand, and shoes on his feet.

Zechariah 3
King James Version
1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the Lord stood by.

6 And the angel of the Lord protested unto Joshua, saying,

7 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.

8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at (powerful men): for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch.

9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes(seven eyes of GOD the Father): behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one Day. ->(The Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium. This Day arrived)

10 In that Day(this Day arrived, the seventh and last Day), saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.

 

[Konstantin]

Where in the parable of the Prodigal Son, or its immediate context in the Gospel of Luke, is it stated that there is a "prophetic meaning" to the story? On what grounds in the parable itself do you rest the idea of the parable being prophetic?

The whole Bible is "a more sure word of prophecie" (2Pet.1:19)(KJV1611). Do you understand that Scripture is speaking about the whole Bible here, not just the books of the Old Testament?

 

[Tenchi]

The whole Bible is "a more sure word of prophecie" (2Pet.1:19)(KJV1611). Do you understand that Scripture is speaking about the whole Bible here, not just the books of the Old Testament?

You're avoiding my questions and points here...

2 Peter 1:16-19 (NASB)
16 For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
17 For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, "This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased"—
18 and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
19 So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.

So, how, exactly, does 2 Peter 1:19 give you license to think of the entirety of God's word as prophecy?

In the above passage, Peter's speaking of the OT prophecies of the Messiah fulfilled in Jesus and testified to by the "Majestic Glory" (Lu. 9:28-36). It was not "cleverly devised tales" Peter was relating to his readers, but what he had witnessed with his own eyes, both of the fulfillment of prophecy in Christ and the heavenly commendation of Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration. By these things, the "prophetic word" - that is, OT prophecy of the Messiah - was made more sure. How does this all translate into thinking Peter meant the whole Bible was a "prophetic word"?

 

[Konstantin]

You're avoiding my questions and points here...

Apparently, you haven't read the work, which means there is no subject for conversation.

 

[Tenchi]

Apparently, you haven't read the work, which means there is no subject for conversation.

??? Just more deflection? Okay...

 

[Ben1445]

Very good point made earlier- Jesus was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. It is a really strange doctrine you present to say that the Holy Spirit begat his brother.
That felt really weird to even put into words.
Your focus on the Holy Spirit is an unhealthy focus that Jesus explained was not what the Spirit of Truth would do. If the Holy Spirit is working through us and in us, our focus will be on Christ as He said it would be.

 

[David Lamb]

GOD, the Father, said unto JESUS:-> this thy brother was dead, and is alive again(Revelation 1:18); and was lost, and is found, It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad. The younger brother of JESUS still in the satanic environment of the Devil where he was still living, had arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off his Father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. And commanded: Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a RING(an alliance) on his hand, and shoes on his feet.

Sorry, where do we read of God the Father saying to Jesus, " This thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found, It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad?" You mention Revelation 1:18, which says:

“"I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.” (Re 1:18 NKJV)

These are the words of Jesus Christ, not God the Father to Jesus. It certainly doesn't say that the Holy Spirit is the brother of Jesus. You are the only person I have ever come a cross who suggests that The Holy Spirit is Jesus's brother.

 

[Reynolds]

Let us consider the prophetic meaning of the parable of the prodigal son. Considering that the Gospel of Luke is entirely devoted to the events that relate to those called “vnto the marriage supper of the Lambe” (Rev.19:9)(KJV611), it is easier for us to understand what period of time is spoken of in the parable of the prodigal son. In this parable, we are shown the events related to the people of Israel in the second half of Daniel's last week, on the day of the Enthronement and Marriage of the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as on the eve of eternity, when the 1000 years of peace will end.

"Fiery serpent"

No need to complicate a simple parable by attempting to insert what is not there.