-
Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
“Your Thoughts on Halloween”
- Thread starter 4ever4Jesus
- Start date
menageriekeeper
Active Member
Hey Jim, what does Halloween have to do with the liquor store? 
Good, then I won't have to worry about you bad mouthing me for being there! You can't make Christmas vanilla flavoring without vodka.
Originally Posted by Steadfast Fred
I wouldn't be caught dead in a liquor store.
Good, then I won't have to worry about you bad mouthing me for being there! You can't make Christmas vanilla flavoring without vodka.
Hey Jim, what does Halloween have to do with the liquor store?
He was saying that he brings small gifts to the businesses in his neighborhood and he doesn't exclude the liquor store from that blessing.
No way!!!!
Steadfast Fred
Active Member
Apparently you've never heard of Frontier non-alcoholic Vanilla.Hey Jim, what does Halloween have to do with the liquor store?
Good, then I won't have to worry about you bad mouthing me for being there! You can't make Christmas vanilla flavoring without vodka.
Last edited by a moderator:
Apparently you've never heard of Frontier non-alcoholic Vanilla.
Have you tried the stuff? It's hideous.
Steadfast Fred
Active Member
And I suppose Vodka makes it better? How so? Because of the toxin called alcohol added to it?
Well why on earth not? If you're already dead than nobody can accuse you of drinking.
So just don't get caught alive in one! :tongue3:
Right there is where I can't agree. If something is wrong, it is NOT your right to not feel convicted of it. In the United States the majority of people see Halloween as a time to celebrate things like witchcraft, evil spirits, death, and other like notions. Doing so is sin. If one actively participates in this aspect of Halloween, you get your buns I'm going to sit here and judge and tell you that you're wrong!
Why are you taking joy in sin? The spirit of Halloween is in no way comparable to the spirit of Christmas.
I think the world of alternative parties. (and you might have figured that out had you actually read my posts all the way) We had awesome ones in Ohio, clearly defining the ALTERNATIVE and why, as Christians, we were choosing an ALTERNATIVE rather than being part of Halloween. Many stayed the whole time, others didn't care and just came for the free stuff and games and then went trick-or-treating anyhow, but it was a really cool thing. Our church out here saw approximately 1500 pass through out here.
It's short and simple. In the United States, the majority of people celebrate evil on Halloween. That makes it wrong for Christians, whether you feel convicted of that or not. There's no way to celebrate evil and call it good and still be right. Ya just can't.
See, we saw a lot of older people who just seemed to have such joy oohing and aaahing over the children as they came to the door and I'm sure that the elderly in the nursing home miss that. So we would bring the trick-or-treating to their door! We're not doing anything "evil" and as a matter of fact, we'd figure out some way to bring them the Gospel and bless them as well. What Satan means for evil, we will work with God to bring good.
I like how you think and that you are GOING like the Bible says to, not sitting there waiting for the unsaved to happen by your door. :thumbsup:
I've worked in a couple nursing homes and so many just love it when kids come by because it's not very common. Although sometimes the kids are scared because there never fails to be one crabby old man or lady who yells at them for disturbing the peace. LOL
No it isn't. Wrong is wrong if the Bible says it is wrong.
Steadfast Fred
Active Member
You're right to a degree, Gina. But then people will say that God struck you dead in the liquor store. Or maybe, you drank yourself to death in a liquor store.
But the fact remains, one had to get in the liquor store in order to be found dead in it, right?
Either dead or alive, I would not want my testimony for Christ ruined by being caught in one dead or alive.
Gina - the vast majority of the people in the United States are not celebrating evil but a cultural holiday where we dress up and go door to door to get some candy. Ask any child what Halloween is for and that's the answer they'll give you. Yes, there is evil associated with Halloween but there is for pretty much every holiday. But we can take what the world sees as evil and turn it around for good.
Oh - and we'd most likely do the nursing home thing the day before or the day after Halloween so that we can still be home to minister to our neighbors.
Oh - and we'd most likely do the nursing home thing the day before or the day after Halloween so that we can still be home to minister to our neighbors.
Gina - the vast majority of the people in the United States are not celebrating evil but a cultural holiday where we dress up and go door to door to get some candy. Ask any child what Halloween is for and that's the answer they'll give you. Yes, there is evil associated with Halloween but there is for pretty much every holiday. But we can take what the world sees as evil and turn it around for good.
Oh - and we'd most likely do the nursing home thing the day before or the day after Halloween so that we can still be home to minister to our neighbors.
I think what is being celebrated is going to remain a disagreement. From what you've described, the area you live in is pretty unique in its quaintness, which is very nice and I wish it would be that way around here!
But everywhere I've lived, save one remote area of Pennsylvania out near Franklin (where the main theme was to drink apple cider, eat caramels, and take hayrides but there were still those who did the icky costumes) the main and often ONLY promotional displays set up in stores or in yards on Halloween involve the evil aspects of it. The yard decorations also reflect that, as do the majority of costumes for older kids and adults, and the parties held by unbelievers and even some churches.
No matter where I've lived or the stories I've read or what I've seen, I've just not come across this concept of the core concept of Halloween in this country not being about death and gore anywhere except from online people or that one place in Pennsylvania.
I like the idea of trying to change that, which you mentioned earlier. Taking something meant for evil and turning it to good instead.
I'd love to be wrong on this, but all the scary bloody television shows advertised, adult parties organized, gory themes in stores, and icky costumes make it SO hard to say that the scary bloody television shows advertised, adult parties organized, gory themes in stores, and icky costumes are not central to modern Halloween in the United States.
menageriekeeper
Active Member
I disagree Gina. I think most folk in the US still think of Halloween as a "kids dress up" holiday far removed from its pagan roots. No one ties up their young boys and tosses them into bogs as a sacrifice anymore and if they do, then the evil is clear and recognizable. God has allowed humans to progress past that sort of thing and our celebration of Halloween wouldn't even be recognizable to those pagans in our ancestory. (well my ancestory anyhow)
Steadfast Fred. I can't believe you would think that vodka was a toxin and glycerin (the main ingredient in the flavoring you posted) is not. Do you not know that glycerin is made from SOAP? And do you know what soap is made from???? Animal fat and LYE! My mother made soap from Drano(which at the time was nothing but lye) and and old hamburger grease.
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
I ain't putting something that is distilled from lye into my body! Talk about a toxin! Here's you link that clearly describes the process:
http://www.pioneerthinking.com/glycerin.html
Oh, by the way, pure glycerin is called glycerol and it is an alcohol. Honestly, I don't understand how you can call something that God created for our good, evil.