1,000 people double-voted in Georgia primary, says secretary of state

[Revmitchell]

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced Tuesday that 1,000 Georgians voted twice in the state’s June 9 primary, a felony that he said will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

1,000 people double-voted in Georgia primary, says secretary of state

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

That’s not good, but most troublesome is the part where they say, “[P]oll workers also allowed them to vote in-person.” Just why would they do that? This could use some clarification.

 

[church mouse guy]

In Indiana, the completed absentee ballots are delivered by the office of the County Clerk to the precincts and tallied on a separate form and put into a special envelope along with the other tallies and returned to the clerk. At least that is the way that it was when they had voting machines. I was an inspector for several years. The big problem that we had was that people moved out of the precinct but they were allowed to return and vote one last time but in order to stop them from returning, the inspector had to force them to file change of address affidavits or they would keep returning. It was very time-consuming to do all the paperwork and keep up with the activity of the precinct but motor voter laws did not allow you to purge voter registration for even dead people. Once we had an absentee ballot from a man who had long since moved to Arizona and we were forced to count it although we did file a complaint to the County Clerk about the fraudulent vote but I think that we had to count it because he was still on the rolls.

We checked the precinct registration that a person had voted absentee and I never saw anyone vote twice that way.

Indianapolis has lots of fraud--more than a thousand I am sure. The way that it is done in Indianapolis is to use variations of a persons name by using initials and registering them in several different precincts at different addresses that are so ghetto that no one will check them.

Fraud also seeps into the upper classes who own homes in several states and vote wherever they have a home. One man one vote means nothing to people with a lot of money apparently. It is disgusting.

 

[rlvaughn]

That’s not good, but most troublesome is the part where they say, “[P]oll workers also allowed them to vote in-person.” Just why would they do that? This could use some clarification.

Yes, it would be interesting to see that clarification. Perhaps they didn't have a good process to stop it? It has been many years since I worked the polls, but I believe this is the way it used to work in our state. The names of those who received a mail-in ballot were stamped in the book. If you came to vote in person, the poll worker would see that and you had to surrender your mail ballot in order to vote at the polls.

(We also had a provisional ballot which both parties' officials and the county officials highly recommended for use rather than someone starting a fight at the polling place. The person would have to sign an affidavit that they had not previously voted. The ballot was placed in an envelope, only to be looked at later if it was a close race. We rarely used this method, but it was an option to settle down an incendiary.)

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, it would be interesting to see that clarification. Perhaps they didn't have a good process to stop it? It has been many years since I worked the polls, but I believe this is the way it used to work in our state. The names of those who received a mail-in ballot were stamped in the book. If you came to vote in person, the poll worker would see that and you had to surrender your mail ballot in order to vote at the polls.

(We also had a provisional ballot which both parties' officials and the county officials highly recommended for use rather than someone starting a fight at the polling place. The person would have to sign an affidavit that they had not previously voted. The ballot was placed in an envelope, only to be looked at later if it was a close race. We rarely used this method, but it was an option to settle down an incendiary.)

Wouldn't it be difficult to get an unused mail-in ballot back?

Absentee ballots used to be rare but now they are often just a mark of laziness.

Mexico had world-class voter idea. It is a dedicated card with high tech security features. I have seen several of them.

In Indiana it is almost impossible to clean up the voter registration rolls because of federal law. That is the fault of the Democrats. The Democrats are open about their desire to cheat in elections. Democrats disrespect human rights.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Yes, it would be interesting to see that clarification. Perhaps they didn't have a good process to stop it? It has been many years since I worked the polls, but I believe this is the way it used to work in our state. The names of those who received a mail-in ballot were stamped in the book. If you came to vote in person, the poll worker would see that and you had to surrender your mail ballot in order to vote at the polls.

(We also had a provisional ballot which both parties' officials and the county officials highly recommended for use rather than someone starting a fight at the polling place. The person would have to sign an affidavit that they had not previously voted. The ballot was placed in an envelope, only to be looked at later if it was a close race. We rarely used this method, but it was an option to settle down an incendiary.)

Thanks. That brings up another question. What about those who never got their ballot? Is that another reason for the provisional? I can see how someone who never got to vote would want to, if possible.

Seems this is where the election could drag out a bit, especially the way some want to run this election. Mass mail-in is not the way to go.

 

[Salty]

Actually "one man - one Vote" was a blow to mainly Republicans when State/Commonwealth Senate seats were based on 1 Senator per county. But The SCOTUS ruled that unconstitutional. Now State Senates are based on "equal"distribution. Here in NY - we have 62 counties. Five of them are in NY City. Normally, we had a Republican Senate representing 98% of the land area. Then NY City had about 50% of the House.

 

[church mouse guy]

Actually "one man - one Vote" was a blow to mainly Republicans when State/Commonwealth Senate seats were based on 1 Senator per county. But The SCOTUS ruled that unconstitutional. Now State Senates are based on "equal"distribution. Here in NY - we have 62 counties. Five of them are in NY City. Normally, we had a Republican Senate representing 98% of the land area. Then NY City had about 50% of the House.

I thought one man one vote meant that you could only vote once in an election?

 

[Salty]

I thought one man one vote meant that you could only vote once in an election?

Wiki has a good post about this:
during the height of related civil rights activities.[5][6][7][8][a] Applying the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court majority opinion (5-4) led by Chief Justice Earl Warren in Reynolds v. Sims (1964) ruled that state legislatures, unlike the United States Congress, needed to have representation in both houses that was based on districts containing roughly equal populations,

You notice there are several good references to check out as well

Actually, I disagree with the Court on this - as the US Senate and the Electoral College do NOT follow the "One Man One Vote" The US Senate was purposely set up that way so that large population States/Commonwealths would not be able to "gang up" on the smaller ones. And likewise - States and Commonwealths with several large urban populations can now have majorities in State houses and have total control.

 

[church mouse guy]

Wiki has a good post about this:
during the height of related civil rights activities.[5][6][7][8][a] Applying the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court majority opinion (5-4) led by Chief Justice Earl Warren in Reynolds v. Sims (1964) ruled that state legislatures, unlike the United States Congress, needed to have representation in both houses that was based on districts containing roughly equal populations,

You notice there are several good references to check out as well

Actually, I disagree with the Court on this - as the US Senate and the Electoral College do NOT follow the "One Man One Vote" The US Senate was purposely set up that way so that large population States/Commonwealths would not be able to "gang up" on the smaller ones. And likewise - States and Commonwealths with several large urban populations can now have majorities in State houses and have total control.

Thanks. I was unaware of Warren's use of the phrase. To me, it deals with universal suffrage and limiting the rich and others from multiple votes. A lot of Hoosiers vote in both Indiana and Florida, which I think is totally criminal. Ike made a deal of musical chairs in California that kicked Warren upstairs to the court and still managed to lose the California state election. I think Earl Warren was a nut like John Roberts is.

 

[Salty]

... A lot of Hoosiers vote in both Indiana and Florida, which I think is totally criminal. ...

Should there be some sort of Federal ID for voting in Federal elections ( POTUS, Sen, Congress)?

And I am sure many Snowbirds vote in two different locations.

So other than a National Election ID - how can that be stopped?

 

[church mouse guy]

Should there be some sort of Federal ID for voting in Federal elections ( POTUS, Sen, Congress)?

And I am sure many Snowbirds vote in two different locations.

So other than a National Election ID - how can that be stopped?

Mexico has a world-class voter ID like a driver's license but it is numbered and features a hologram. Apparently, their voter ID is better than ours although the Mexico of yesteryear had one party rule for 80 years.

Motor voter law should be reformed so that dead people can be removed from the rolls and people who moved away cannot vote in their old precinct one last time. Indiana was trying to use Social Security numbers to eliminate voting all over the country by one person but I don't know how successful that has been. One of my bosses had mansions in four different states but I think he was honest but I imagine thousands are voting several times.

I think we need to issue voting ID along the lines of Mexican ID. Their ID is so good that it is almost like passport.

 

[just-want-peace]

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Motor voter law should be reformed so that dead people can be removed from the rolls and people who moved away cannot vote in their old precinct one last time. -------

Never see the light of day unless dems are a minority (or non-existent) in ALL branches!!

 

[Salty]

Never see the light of day unless dems are a minority (or non-existent) in ALL branches!!

First excuse is that poor people cant pay
Than if it is free - then they complain that poor people cant go get the ID
If they get a free ride - - well they will find some excuse......

Why is it they never have any problem getting to the store to buy cancer sticks ....???
(Wait - dont they need ID for that???)