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1/3 of randomly tested people in Massachusetts has antibodies to covid

church mouse guy

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< slaps forehead in astonishment at display of CMG's ignorance >

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There you go again. Haven't you heard that maybe there are 50 people who have had the flu and didn't know it for everyone who was counted? Look before you leap.
 

InTheLight

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There you go again. Haven't you heard that maybe there are 50 people who have had the flu and didn't know it for everyone who was counted? Look before you leap.
Maybe have had some other strain of a flu, but have NOT had Covid-19.

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church mouse guy

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Let him slap his "forehead" all he wants. Maybe it will knock some sense in him.

This lockdown has revealed a lot of medical experts who know more than any Stanford Professor of Medicine who works with the Hoover Institution, an endowment of President Herbert Hoover, a man who did more for this country in life and death than Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who died in Warm Springs, GA, with his whore.
 

InTheLight

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This lockdown has revealed a lot of medical experts who know more than any Stanford Professor of Medicine who works with the Hoover Institution, an endowment of President Herbert Hoover, a man who did more for this country in life and death than Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who died in Warm Springs, GA, with his whore.
There's a lot of people here that have gotten their medical degrees from GatewayPundit.com and Tucker Carlson. They certainly know more about Covid-19 than the CDC or Johns Hopkins.

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Calminian

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There's a lot of people here that have gotten their medical degrees from GatewayPundit.com and Tucker Carlson. They certainly know more about Covid-19 than the CDC or Johns Hopkins.

I can only imagine, then, where you got yours. :rolleyes:
 

Revmitchell

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There's a lot of people here that have gotten their medical degrees from GatewayPundit.com and Tucker Carlson. They certainly know more about Covid-19 than the CDC or Johns Hopkins.

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Oh, so long as we listen to your chosen medical "experts" then we must be right. However, if.....nevermind.
 

Reynolds

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I’d guess you don’t work in the healthcare industry.
Healthcare workers are at greater risk of infection and have a higher rate of death due in part to a greater chance of exposure to virus.

Since many that have the virus remain asymptomatic for quite some time before exhibiting symptoms, healthcare worker may require weekly testing.

At this time almost all offices are closed or doing video-telehealth (which is how I’ve been spending 7 hours a day, as an advance set-up person before the appointments).
No elective procedures are being performed in hospitals as well.

Lockdowns are only as good as the people doing them. If you cheat, you are at risk. As more people refuse to stay indoors, risks increase exponentially.

Rob
The damage the lockdowns are doing to the economy will farc outweigh any good they have done.
 

Reynolds

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I get my info from the CDC, Johns Hopkins, and Mayo Clinic.

I figure they know a bit more than Tucker Carlson.
The Doctors may or may not be right. The doctors are looking at strict medical aspect. Politicians must weigh health vs economic interest. In the long turn, an economic collapse will cost more lives than an unmitigated covid 19 pandemic.
 

Adonia

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I get my info from the CDC, Johns Hopkins, and Mayo Clinic.

I figure they know a bit more than Tucker Carlson.

If you listen to Tucker he raises questions. One of them was how many people who are dying died from something other than the virus. The authorities could be now lumping all deaths together and saying each one was caused by the virus.

One thing is that many who have died have long standing health issues like heart disease. The person dies, but was it the virus that ended their life or their weak heart? Sure, getting the virus Might have hastened their death, but in reality it was their heart disease that did them in.

We also have to watch out for the Federal dollars that will flow to these hospitals - the more deaths caused by the virus the more money they will get. I am sure the sharp hospital administrators that exist haven't missed that angle either.
 
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Calminian

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If you listen to Tucker he raises questions. One of them was how many people who are dying died from something other than the virus. The authorities could be now lumping all deaths together and saying each one was caused by the virus.

One reality is that many who have died have long standing health issues like heart disease. The person dies, but was it the virus that ended their life or their weak heart? Sure, getting the virus Might have hastened their death, but in reality it was their heart disease that did them in.

We also have to watch out for the Federal dollars that will flow to these hospitals - the more deaths caused by the virus the more money they will get. I am sure the sharp hospital administrators that exist haven't missed that angle either.

Tucker has been pretty balanced on this. He's been careful not to minimum this virus, and not to compare it to an ordinary flu. He's been critical of those dismissive, and critical of those overreacting.

I'm surprised ITL is going after him, in particular. My guess is, he doesn't actually listen to Tucker.
 

Revmitchell

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I get my info from the CDC, Johns Hopkins, and Mayo Clinic.

I figure they know a bit more than Tucker Carlson.

Just stop. Your whole schpiel is disengenuous. No one gets their info from tucker carlson. I cant believe you all are attacking each other over this.
 

Deacon

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One common point that pops up among those that are researching this virus is we really don’t know much about it yet.

Inferences can be drawn from past viruses but research is sketchy at this point.

Rob
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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One common point that pops up among those that are researching this virus is we really don’t know much about it yet.

Inferences can be drawn from past viruses but research is sketchy at this point.

Rob
Not only that, but being in the medical field does not prove perfect morality or politics. Anyone imagining that human nature does not play a significant role in medicine has blinders on and becomes part of the problem.

The abortion, AIDS/HIV, and smoking issues are major examples of this, but it is true in general. Many companies and individuals want to be first and only for the fame and the money.
 

Gold Dragon

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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: Serological Test Validation and Education Efforts

To date, we have already issued four EUAsfor serological tests, and we expect that number to continue to grow in the coming weeks.

There is still a great deal about COVID-19 immunity that we don’t yet fully understand. For example, we don’t yet know that just because someone has developed antibodies, that they are fully protected from reinfection, or how long any immunity lasts. We do expect that data from more widespread serological testing will help us track the spread of the virus nationwide and assess the impact of our public health efforts now, while also informing our COVID-19 response as we continue to move forward.

Why Validation Data Are Needed

All clinical tests should be validated prior to use, and this expectation is articulated in our March 16 policy. We have provided regulatory flexibility regarding the independent check by FDA for antibody tests that are limited in their clinical applications, but still expect all developers to validate their tests prior to offering them for limited clinical uses.

To minimize the number of false positive results, serological tests must be well-designed to specifically identify antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 and must not “cross-react,” or provide positive results when encountering antibodies against other respiratory viruses.
 
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