1 Corinthians 7:12

[psalms109:31]

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.


What are we to do with verses like this one?

Why did He make that distinction?

 

[JesusFan]

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.


What are we to do with verses like this one?

Why did He make that distinction?

Apostle was merely stating here that Jesus never directly amswered/addressed this situation, NOT that this was not an answer from the Lord...
By being in the text of inspired writting, IS God viewpoint on this issue...

IF one is a Christian and has unsaved Spouse, UNLESS that person cannot "handle" married to a believer, the saved one MUST stay in the marriage!

Know its will of God NOT to marry non Christian, so would be addressing situation IF one became one after already married!

 

[freeatlast]

Because there was no previous scripture to point to or direct word from God as in a vision or dream, but that does not make it any less God breathed, God inspired.

 

[psalms109:31]

Deeper

2 Corinthians 11 :
Paul Boasts About His Sufferings
16 I repeat: Let no one take me for a fool. But if you do, then tolerate me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting. 17 In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool. 18 Since many are boasting in the way the world does, I too will boast. 19 You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! 20 In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or puts on airs or slaps you in the face. 21 To my shame I admit that we were too weak for that!

Whatever anyone else dares to boast about—I am speaking as a fool—I also dare to boast about. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham’s descendants? So am I. 23 Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was pelted with stones, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26 I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my fellow Jews, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false believers. 27 I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. 28 Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak, and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not inwardly burn?

30 If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 In Damascus the governor under King Aretas had the city of the Damascenes guarded in order to arrest me. 33 But I was lowered in a basket from a window in the wall and slipped through his hands.

 

[TCGreek]

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.


What are we to do with verses like this one?

Why did He make that distinction?

My own conclusions have been to trace those sayings of Jesus in the Gospels on the matter and what are not, in Paul's mind.

 

[preacher4truth]

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.


What are we to do with verses like this one?

Why did He make that distinction?

Did you read this?

(Some persons use the following to say not all of the Bible is the Word of God, this is just not so)

To be fair and touch upon an issue that brings some to conclude all of the Word is not the Word of God, typically this passage, 1 Corinthians 7:10,12 is used as a proof-text to do so:

"But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband...But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her." 1 Corinthians 7:10,12


But the problem lies in the fact that to do so is to misunderstand what is said here, and shows a deficient contextual understanding of the passage. Keep in mind that no verse in Scripture can erase dogma, in this case, that all of Scripture is the Word of God, 2 Timothy 3:16, but when seemingly this appears to be the case, we must seek a better contextual understanding to arrive at the truth of the matter within the verses/passages that seem to cast doubt upon an established dogma.

This should shine light on the subject here:

http://www.biola.edu/news/biolamag/a...aboutbible.cfm

- Peace

 

[Skandelon]

I believe the Bible teaches us the words of God, but I believe to call it the 'Word of God" in the manner some do undermines the One given that title by the very scriptures being deemed to be God's words.

Rev. 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

Some questions to consider:

1. Is the man in this passage representing the scriptures, or Christ?

2. Is the Trinity made up of: The Father, The Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? Or The Father, The Son (who is given the title as the Word), and the Holy Spirit?

Could some be giving a title meant for Christ, to the scriptures?

TO BE CLEAR: That is not an effort to lesson our view of scripture. They are the inspired, God's Breathed testimony of divine truth! But, my effort is to see that we don't undermine our view of Christ, The one and ONLY who carries the title "WORD of GOD!" Now, obviously the bible records for us the words of God. There are the "thus saith the Lord" passages which give us direct quotes from God's mouth. They all are inspired (God-breathed) passages giving divine wisdom and guidance. But I'm simply speaking of the TITLE. The scripture doesn't call itself "The Word of God," but it does call Jesus "The Word of God." So, what should we conclude from that?

Is Jesus equal to the scriptures in such a way that both can correctly carry that same title, even if scripture itself doesn't claim it? Or can we draw that simple distinction without being labeled a liberal, non-bible believing heretic?

 

[mandym]

Jesus and the Bible are both the Word of God. They are distinct in that they are two different forms of the Word but they are still both the Word. It serves no purpose to belittle the written word as anything less than Christ. They are both God's revelation of Himself to man. One is to be worshiped they other is to be read, revered, and obeyed. They both equally represent who God is.

 

[quantumfaith]

Jesus and the Bible are both the Word of God. They are distinct in that they are two different forms of the Word but they are still both the Word. It serves no purpose to belittle the written word as anything less than Christ. They are both God's revelation of Himself to man. One is to be worshiped they other is to be read, revered, and obeyed. They both equally represent who God is.

Mandy,

Is there anyone here belittling the written word?

 

[psalms109:31]

Did you read this?

(Some persons use the following to say not all of the Bible is the Word of God, this is just not so)





- Peace

The link didn't work. I am learning and growing everyday. I will not be finished that I am being changed daily by the word of God. Paul had to be humbled by God constantly with a thorn for his great revelations.He was learning just like us from God and being changed daily. To me around the end of his life he knew people where misunderstanding him so much that he made it plain and simple to them. That God wants all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth and people didn't believe him back then either.

I've learned so much from Paul and it is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness and I continue to learn from him. There is no other that I know who knew grace like Paul to be forgiven for what he did as we know as Saul.

Luke 7:
44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”

48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

 

[mandym]

Mandy,

Is there anyone here belittling the written word?

You might want to go back and place that in context.

 

[psalms109:31]

My own conclusions have been to trace those sayings of Jesus in the Gospels on the matter and what are not, in Paul's mind.

We must do as your signature say's from Paul.

 

[preacher4truth]

The link didn't work. .”

here it is, my apologies:

http://magazine.biola.edu/article/08-summer/gods-word-or-pauls-personal-opinion/

 

[preacher4truth]

I believe the Bible teaches us the words of God, but I believe to call it the 'Word of God" in the manner some do undermines the One given that title by the very scriptures being deemed to be God's words.

Rev. 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

Some questions to consider:

1. Is the man in this passage representing the scriptures, or Christ?

2. Is the Trinity made up of: The Father, The Scriptures and the Holy Spirit? Or The Father, The Son (who is given the title as the Word), and the Holy Spirit?

Could some be giving a title meant for Christ, to the scriptures?

TO BE CLEAR: That is not an effort to lesson our view of scripture. They are the inspired, God's Breathed testimony of divine truth! But, my effort is to see that we don't undermine our view of Christ, The one and ONLY who carries the title "WORD of GOD!" Now, obviously the bible records for us the words of God. There are the "thus saith the Lord" passages which give us direct quotes from God's mouth. They all are inspired (God-breathed) passages giving divine wisdom and guidance. But I'm simply speaking of the TITLE. The scripture doesn't call itself "The Word of God," but it does call Jesus "The Word of God." So, what should we conclude from that?

Is Jesus equal to the scriptures in such a way that both can correctly carry that same title, even if scripture itself doesn't claim it? Or can we draw that simple distinction without being labeled a liberal, non-bible believing heretic?

Sounds good until one reads the Scriptures Skan.

John the Apostle was imprisoned for preaching "The Word of God" (Revelation 1:9) which was the Scriptures. That means that Paul, Peter, all the Apostles were preaching the Word of God, or the Scriptures, so no, it doesn't undermine our Lord in doing so by calling it what it is. Also, we don't need a proof-text naming the 66 book canon "The Word of God" for this holy title to be valid.

And all of it is the Word of God, from Genesis to Revelation.

 

[Aaron]

From the linked to article:

But did Jesus give instructions during his earthly ministry about what to do in the case of a believer who is already married to an unbelieving spouse? No, there is no evidence in any of the Gospels that Jesus ever had reason to teach about such a situation during his earthly ministry.

So Paul gives authoritative instructions as God’s appointed apostle about what to do in this particular situation. In this case, his appeal is to source-of-authority No. 2, the authority of the apostles (of which he is one). His instruction is still a “trustworthy” word of the Lord, even if Jesus didn’t teach about it during his earthly ministry (1 Corinthians 7:25), because, as Paul says about himself, “I also have the Spirit of God” (1 Corinthians 7:40). Paul is a divinely appointed apostle who has authority to give such directions to the churches (1 Corinthians 7:17).

:thumbs: Dead on.

 

[Aaron]

I believe the Bible teaches us the words of God, but I believe to call it the 'Word of God" in the manner some do undermines the One given that title by the very scriptures being deemed to be God's words.

And it doesn't undermine Christ that you usurp one of His titles?

 

[psalms109:31]

here it is, my apologies:

http://magazine.biola.edu/article/08-summer/gods-word-or-pauls-personal-opinion/

I hate divorce myself. If we can do anything to salvage a marriage we should. If the person stays with us we shouldn't kick them out. If they want to leave we cannot control another decisions. So we should let them go, we are not bound by them any longer.

I was separated from my wife for many years. I hated divorce I fought and fought to save our marriage and the more i did the more i chased her away. I finally gave up and gave to the Lord and she came back to me.

It is so hard to give over to God and that doesn't mean like me you will get them back God might find someone else or the best thing is you have Jesus with Him you need nothing more.

Some times it is best to leave if for things like domestic violence or that nature for hope they will change.

 

[preacher4truth]

From the linked to article:

:thumbs: Dead on.

One more reason people need to stop their proof-texting. How many errors has this led to on the BB alone?

No passage or verse in the Scriptures will ever contradict nor take away from established dogma. If a passge or verse "does", one is simply interpreting the passage incorrectly.

The Bible, Holy Scriptures, they are the Word of God.

 

[Skandelon]

Jesus and the Bible are both the Word of God. They are distinct in that they are two different forms of the Word but they are still both the Word. It serves no purpose to belittle the written word as anything less than Christ.

So, you put the scriptures on the same level with their author?


Would you rather read the book or meet the author? The book is meant to introduce you to its author, not to be the end in and of itself. We don't worship the scriptures...at least we shouldn't. We do worship Christ and yet you have just put them on the same level.

I think the very scriptures you are attempting to defend don't support your view.

 

[mandym]

So, you put the scriptures on the same level with their author?


Would you rather read the book or meet the author? The book is meant to introduce you to its author, not to be the end in and of itself. We don't worship the scriptures...at least we shouldn't. We do worship Christ and yet you have just put them on the same level.

Straw man

I think the very scriptures you are attempting to defend don't support your view.

I know but that is the problem. Your thinking is contrary to the Word.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.