KJV- Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
NIV- Not given to drunkenness....
ESV- Not a drunkard....
The Greek word is πάροινος (paroinos). It is a construct (two words stuck together to form one new word) of πάρα (beside) and oινος (wine). It means "to stand beside the wine" indicating being too long at or by the wine.
The KJV is more literal (at least as far as the "wine" part is concerned) but the NIV ESV are the dynamic equivalence, bringing the meaning, if not the actual words, into English.
ESV/NIV, as all modern translations, are based on what is known as the "Westcort/Hort" revised text,
Untrue. Most modern translations are based on the Nestle-Aland texts. The most recent edition being the 28th iteration if I remember correctly. NA and WH are both representatives of the Alexandrian textform.
based primarily on the "Aleph" MMS,
The Alexandrian textform is primarily represented by Aleph and B.
which is the oldest and worst MS.
Oldest, no. It may be the oldest nearly complete text of both Testaments but there are manuscripts which are older. And "worst" - like best - is a subjective assessment and is therefore in the eye of the beholder.
It was found in a trash can, being used to start fires!
False. Some old scraps were seen in a trash can being used to start the fire in the fireplace but when it was noticed they were leaves with writing on them Count Constantine Tischendorf asked if there were others and he was taken to the library and shown a near complete manuscript of the bible, wrapped in red leather, and guarded and handled very carefully. The monks understood the value of the manuscript.
Suggest you read Dean Burgon's arguments against W/H and the "Aleph" text/MS.
John Burgon was no great fan of Aleph or B and his writings are very informative if a bit over the top with invective.
That is simply a radical KJVO lie.
I never use/consult or read any of the modern version based on W/H, except to show where they are wrong.
And I wonder how he would know what was wrong as I would be willing to wager, were I a wagering man, that he can't read a word of Greek.
After working with W/H on the Revision Committee, Dean Burgon resigned because he saw what they were doing to the Bible.
As far as I know John Burgon was never on the RV revision committee.
New Testament Company.
The Right Rev. Charles John Ellicott, D. D., Bishop of Gloucester and Bristol (Chairman), Palace, Gloucester.
The Right Rev. George Moberly, D. C. L., Bishop of Salisbury, Palace, Salisbury.
The Very Rev. Edward Henry Bickersteth, D. D., Prolocutor, Dean of Lichfield, Deanery, Lichfield.
The Very Rev. Arthur Penrhyn Stanley, D. D., Dean of Westminster, Deanery, Westminster.
The Very Rev. Robert Scott, D. D., Dean of Rochester, Deanery, Rochester.
The Very Rev. Joseph Williams Blakesley, B. D., Dean of Lincoln, Deanery, Lincoln.
The Most Rev. Richard Chenevix Trench, D. D., Archbishop of Dublin, Palace, Dublin.
The Right Rev. Joseph Lightfoot, D. D., LL.D., Bishop of Durham.
The Right Rev. Charles Wordsworth, D. C. L., Bishop of St. Andrew's, Bishopshall, St. Andrew's.
The Rev. Joseph Angus, D. D., President of the Baptist College, Regent's Park, London.
The Rev. David Brown, D. D., Principal of the Free Church College, Aberdeen.
The Rev. Fenton John Anthony Hort, D. D., Fellow of Emmanual College, Cambridge.
The Rev. William Gilson Humphry, Vicarage, St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, London, W. C.
The Rev. Benjamin Hall Kennedy, D. D., Canon of Ely and Regius Professor of Greek, The Elms, Cambridge.
The Ven. William Lee, D. D., Archdeacon of Dublin, Dublin.
The Rev. William Milligan, D. D., Professor of Divinity and Biblical Criticism, Aberdeen.
The Rev. William F. Moulton, D. D., Master of the Leys School, Cambridge.
The Rev. Samuel Newth, D. D., Principal of New College, Hampstead, London.
The Ven. Edwin Palmer, D. D., Archdeacon of Oxford, Christ Church, Oxford.
The Rev. Alexander Roberts, D. D., Professor of Humanity, St. Andrew's.
The Rev. Frederick Henry Ambrose Scrivener, LL.D., Prebendary, Hendon Vicarage, London, N. W.
The Rev. George Vance. Smith, D. D., Parade, Carmarthen.
The Rev. Charles John Vaughan, D. D., Master of the Temple, The Temple, London, E. C.
The Rev. Brooke Foss Westcott, D. D., Canon of Peterborough and Regius Professor of Divinity, Trinity College, Cambridge.
The Rev. J. Troutbeck (Secretary), Dean's Yard, Westminster.
The English New Testament Company has lost, by death, the Right Rev. Dr. Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Winchester; the Very Rev. Dr. Henry Alford, Dean of Canterbury; the Rev. Dr. John Eadie, Professor of Biblical Literature in the United Presbyterian Church, Glasgow; and Mr. Samuel Prideaux Tregelles, LL. D.; and they lost, by resignation, the Rev. Dr. Charles Merivale, Dean of Ely.
Only slightly. Mostly nonsense.
Basically he is saying you cant trust the NIV/ESV. I do not believe him as these are my 2 best translations.
What do you base that assessment on?
Or is this guy a type of KJVO?
The worst type. The type that knows absolutely nothing and just copies and pastes from websites put up by other people who know absolutely nothing about texts or translation.
