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#1 What do you Teach other men that "a Church is"? What do Landmarks Teach men that "a Church is"?
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My guess is he’s a Baptist Brider.
Silverhair
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"Baptist Brider" that's a term I am not familiar with so I looked it up here:
Are You a Baptist Brider or Local Church Only?
Seems to fit him quite well from what I read on his posts.
Good article. And he also believes in the Eternal Security of the born again believer.
Silverhair
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I believe in the eternal security of the born again believer, but that requires that they stay a believer. I agree that nothing can snatch a believer from the hand of God but that does not stop someone from walking away from Him.
I have worked with two minister that latter walked away because of faith challenges.
Read the story of this man
Charles Bradley Templeton[2][3] (October 7, 1915 – June 7, 2001) was a Canadian media figure and a former Christian evangelist. Known in the 1940s and 1950s as a leading evangelist, he became an agnostic and later embraced atheism after struggling with doubt.
I just came across this while doing a search.
1Ch 28:9 "As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever.
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37818
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Both John 10:28 and John 10:29, . . . neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. . . . and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. That language includes self.
Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity; I never knew you.
Very clear. There is a false belief, and there is a true belief. Only true believers are born again. John 3:3, John 3:7. Many think they are saved, but have never been saved. Once a man is born again, it is forever, because it is a work of God, not a work of man.
Silverhair
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If he CAN turn away, he will, because he has never been born again, never been saved, and never knew Christ and He never knew them. They are hogs that were washed but still have a hog’s heart, a hog’s nature, snd they will revert to their wallowing in the mud of sin. They remained hogs and never were transformed into sheep.
Christ’s sheep are known of Him, known by name, and while Christ NEVER knew the lost, yet He knows all His sheep and His sheep shall NEVER perish.
The new birth is REAL, and one who has been supernaturally transformed into that new creation, fitted for Heaven, CANNOT revert back to being the slug he once was, fit only for hell, no more than a butterfly can revert to being a crawling caterpillar again. His will is found in God’s will, for He lives to do the will of He Who gave Him new birth, a new heart after God’s heart, and a new life in Christ Jesus, walking no longer by the flesh but by the Holy Spirit of God.
Silverhair
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So what you are saying is that once a person has trusted in Christ they then loose their free will.
I do find it strange that we are told that no one knows the mind of man except that man and yet you have made all these judgements about other men. How do you know that they never believed, you do not.
@MrW read these verses in context and you will see that even those that have trusted in Christ Jesus can not be complacent but must hold fast to the truth lest they fall.
Heb 3:12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called "Today," so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness.
Rom 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble.
Rom 11:21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
Paul warned the Corinthians and us not to take our salvation for granted.
1Co 15:1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
1Co 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58 Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
These are warning to Christians, they would be meaningless if the possibility of falling away from Christ were not possible.
As Paul told Timothy "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 2Ti_3:16