106,400 and counting...

John, You're making me squirm.

 

Tell us all what you have done, Jim.

 

All five of the new GOP Senators ran as pro-lifers and in part as people who would help break the obstruction of pro-life judicial appointees.

These guys haven't even been seated yet Jim. Let's see if the GOP in the Senate remembers who buttered their bread next year.

One thing I wish Bush would do though is make a bunch of recess appointments of pro-life conservatives. This would force the hand of the Senate, in particular Specter.

 

I love this statement. Exactly how would the number be "higher" had "Kerry been elected?" Perhaps you could offer some EVIDENCE to support such a bizarre claim, and enlighten us as to how the number would be "higher."

This too is a statement that I love. Perhaps you didn't notice that neither the Bush Administration nor the GOP made any attempts to overturn Roe v. Wade during his first term. Bush now has a "mandate," and I have yet to hear anyone else theorize that overturning Roe v. Wade is in this "mandate." Another point worth noting is the fact that the GOP controls the House, the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court. Yet they still have made no effort to overturn Roe v. Wade. To use incorrect grammar: it ain't gonna happen, Joseph.

Again, to use incorrect grammar: it ain't gonna happen, Joseph.

Again, to use incorrect grammar: it ain't gonna happen, Joseph.
If Roe v. Wade were going to be overturned, it would have already been done.

 

They don't have the votes in the SC yet. They have a historic opportunity to have that in the next four years. Let's see what happens.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Again, to use incorrect grammar: it ain't gonna happen, Joseph.
If Roe v. Wade were going to be overturned, it would have already been done.

 

Why let the government legistlate morality? How many of us here have either worked at a pregnancy center, worked with young people, taught them about the consequences of premarital sexual behavior, and other real forms of helping. I cannot help but think that the people who are the loudest on this issue haven't done anything real to stem the tide of abortion in the first place. If you're serious about not wanting to see children being murdered in the womb, why not do something about it?

 

It isn't only about morality although government does legislate many issues that overlap with morality.

It is about the right of an individual human being to live. The very same premise that says governments can legitimately outlaw murder applies to abortion. Both of these things deny another person their right to live without them having provided just cause. The most innocent people on earth are unborn babies.

About 98% of all women who have an abortion already exercised their free choice when they engaged in sex. That is the percentage of abortions that are elective... not medical, not rape, not incest. Abortion isn't about protecting a legitimate right... it's about allowing people to shirk the responsibility that comes with exercising a right and not having it work out as hoped.

 

I don't believe this is true at all. Most Americans couldn't even describe in generalities what this decision involved or how it was arrived at. According to the polls, something like 60% think Roe v Wade should not be overturned yet a greater percentage think that judges should rule on law rather than making law.

I believe that pro-lifers should and to some extent have focused on defining when life begins. This will necessitate that Roe v Wade be revisited at some point.

The pro-life movement has to be the worst PR campaign in history. It holds all of the trump cards and never plays them. Why not public service commercials that show a color display of a 12 week old fetus? Why not explain that most abortions kill an unborn that meets all of the legal requirements for being "alive" except that they happen to be in a womb?

Instead of educating people, they go out and protest clinics opening themselves up to being marginalized by the media.

 

The only one that really matters is the volunteering and contributing to pregnancy certers, in my opinion. Signing petitions and encouraging representatives is nice, but hasn't been able to stop a single abortion. We need more Christians who are willing to stand up and actually be directly involved with the populations who are choosing to receive these abortions.

 

And in that same time, you've done nothing about it, except to complain that the rest of us are doing nothing about it

 

Maybe some of us are actually showing up at abortion clinics, counseling people, teaching our kids that human life is sacred, etc.

I don't have any way of knowing who is and who isn't.

I agree that changing hearts beats changing laws.

But Bush is sending a message when his first appointment of the new term is a pro-abortion judge.

The Bully Pulpit can be used to help or hurt in the abortion problem. Bush is hurting us.