13 Things a Lost Person Cannot Do

[Rev. G]

no need to confess your sin and then be forgiven of them - you start out forgiven" as Clavinism asserts.

I'm not familiar with "Clavinism." Does it have something to do with Cliff Clavin (the mailman) from "Cheers"?

I am familiar, however, with "Calvinism." It in no way asserts this.

So your point is that the lost - do not suddenly "come to life" and "discover that they are born-again and made alive in Christ, accepted in the beloved, and in fellowship with Christ - no separation". But INSTEAD they "come to the point of being ABLE to accept eternal life in Christ, Accept the new birth offer, respond to the call to repent and THEN receive forgiveness and adoption into the body of Christ"?

You are sounding like an Arminian.

Sounding like an Arminian.

The Arminian view is that the person believes and THEN "comes to life" (not simply eternal life, but also regeneration).

That is the Arminian view - Christ effectively DRAWS all unto Himself - and by so doing He effectively ENABLES them to CHOOSE life.

Doesn't sound very effective since a bunch of them still go to Hell.

Rev. G

 

[Eric B]

I'm not familiar with "Clavinism." Does it have something to do with Cliff Clavin (the mailman) from "Cheers"?

Aww, I always thought a Clavinist was someone who played the Clavinet keyboard (Like Stevie Wonder's "Superstition"). But then I guess he's also a Harminian (plays the harmonica)
Oh, well.

[ November 14, 2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Eric B ]

 

[Rev. G]

Aww, I always thought a Clavinist was someone who played the Clavinet keyboard (Like Stevie Wonder's "Superstition"). But then I guess he's also a Harminian (plays the harmonica)