14 Characteristics of a Facist Nation

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Neutralized, now there's a word. Are you comfortable with the idea of America being neutralized? How about your family children and friends, are you comfortatble with the idea of them being neutralized also? Are you telling me that you are willing to just sit there and not do anything about it while you still may have a chance to do something about it?

I am certainly not comfortable with our nation being somehow neutralized, but I see in the Bible that we are not involved nationally in the future events. As far as my family and church family, we are already saved and will be raptured out before these things come to pass. I do see an eager willingness on the part of about half of the American voters to elect a radical left winger who will certainly lead us down the globalist path. If you think GWB is doing that just wait till he's gone.

Our whole system of government in these United States was designed to do just that...something about it. The players are identifiable, the policies are identifiable, the global (earthly) entities that are pushing it are identifiable, the politicians in Washington that are helping to push it are identifiable but yet there is nothing we can do about it?

I know we can see many players in this game, but even they do not know the end game. The end game is the destruction of Israel forever.

What kind of attitude is that? Sounds defeatist to me, is that what America is all about now??? The land of the scared and home of the defeatists? I thought only liberals were defeatists Hillclimber, aren't you one those that deride them for that attribute? I don't understand this kind of thinking at all.

As a dispensationalist, I've been accused of wanting to hasten the prophecies in Rev., but nothing could be further from the truth. I want desperately for America to resist this globalizing movement, so that it can be said that we fought the good fight and did not allow our knowlege and actions to be corrupted by this movement.

Doesn't it upset you that these people are systematically destroying our republic and the freedom that goes along with it? Don't you want your children to have a bill of rights that protects them from government tyranny? I believe God gave us this great country and people like our founders to set up a small island of liberty on this earth to show the tyrants and usurpers and even the people in this world that it can be done, that it has been done, and it can be done again.

It certainly does upset me, and I agree with you up till your last few words.

We have been the recipients of the greatest political system ever devised, but we quickly set in motion its destruction by turning it into a democracy, where a majority, whether right or wrong holds sway. A democracy rarely lasts more than 200 years.

Our own people, including yourself Poncho are systematically trying to destroy anything GWB wants to accomplish, including the war on terrorism (the tyrants and userpers), and that works for the globalists.

I find it strange that when the elite loosed their radical liberalism on America, Christians were quick to identify the dangers of it and speak out, but now that they've introduced another kind of evil on the country Christians actually embrace it or are just to busy harping about liberals to even notice the greater danger right in front of their noses.

I simply don't understand this part Poncho.

Maybe you are right Hillclimber, maybe this country and our posterity isn't worth the effort it might take to actually try and save it and them.

My efforts are to preserve this nation unscathed, but I see insurmountable obstacles in place and more being erected</font>[/QUOTE]I think we have mostly the same concerns for our people and the nation, but have differing ideas on who the perpetrators are, and their methods and goals.

 

First, I apologize Hillclimber for giving you such a hard time all over the board lately. This comes from frustration mostly, though that is no excuse, sorry. Some times I tend to overstate things, well most times I reckon. You've probably noticed. I don't doubt you're love of country and the concerns you have of liberalism being a negative influence I totally agree with you on that.

The difference in our ideas I think comes from how liberalism was inflicted on us, couldn't think of a more descriptive word to use here. While it's not openly discussed often if at all is how and who founded and funded the liberal and environmental movements and the propaganda machines that condition us to think one way or another everyday. It's quite an interesting and confusing study.

Oil barons like the Rockefeller's (for example) played no small roll in the foundation and funding of the evironmental movement. Now why would oil magnates like the Rockefellers do such a thing? Keep prices up by keeping supply limited?

I believe that it's similar with liberalism. The Hegelian dialectic is being played out through controlled opposition. Where would conservatives be without a liberal foe, or where would the liberals be without a conservative foe? And why should we always have to choose a side with the lines and beliefs already clearly drawn up for us? I think the game is rigged and liberals as well as conservatives are going to lose the country and the freedom we have enjoyed for over 200 years because of it.

To sum up for what it's worth there are people and principalities that benefit from balkanizing us and keeping us "at each others throughts". We're constantly blaming the wrong parties and people all the time. In other words we're trying to fell the tree by sawing off the branches when we should be chopping on the root.

This is my whole point. BTW, I enjoy our exchanges and apologize once again for taking my frustrations out on you.

This might be true if the war on terrorism wasn't a scam from the beginging. This was all planned long ago. Long long ago. It's just another form of balkanization, keeping the barbarians from collusion, indentifying the real culprits and seizing control over our own lives and liberty.

The globalists (including GWB) are following Julius Caesar's playbook on building an empire play by play and point for point.

[ February 07, 2006, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: poncho ]

 

That wasn't necessary Poncho, but thank you. I am rougher on some on here, but I'm unrepentant toward them. I actually mostly enjoy our (you and me) banter, because we actually see one anothers point of view sometimes.

I'm not going to post here too much anymore, because the enjoyment is pretty much gone, and I am unable to convince anyone of the truth as I know it, and I've come to realize that I'm pretty abrasive.

 

Please don't go anywhere, HC. Yer no more abrasive than a lot, and you make more sense than most.IMO

 

I agree. We just need more civility. Debate is healthy, and how do you know that seeds aren't being planted?