37818
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Please specify. What is actually true, is not merely my truth.The issue is "your truth" may not be true.
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Please specify. What is actually true, is not merely my truth.The issue is "your truth" may not be true.
The truth is that we cannot know the date (due to the historic nature of Jewish timekeeping). And the truth (per Scripture) is that the crucifixion could not have occurred on Nisan 15 or 21.Please specify. What is actually true, is not merely my truth.
Please specify. What is actually true, is not merely my truth.
Yep."
"So we can conclude that the terms associated with the observance of the Passover Feast which appear in the New Testament are used in accordance with popular usage in that day . . .
Nowhere does God's word teach the 15th of Nisan
is the first day of unleavened bread.
Not Exodus 12:18.
Nowhere does God's word teach the 15th of Nisan
is the first day of unleavened bread.
Not Leviticus 23:6.
Nowhere does God's word teach the 15th of Nisan
is the first day of unleavened bread.
Not Numbers 28:17.
Two of the Seven Biblical ANNUAL SABBATH HIGH DAY Rest Days,
or shabbath (Holy Assemblies) occur in Spring
on the First and Last Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Matzot).
"The 15th of Nisan
was from Wedensday at sunset to the end of the day of Thursday,"
and Nison 15, is The First Day of The Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Numbers 28:17; "and on the 15th day of this month is a feast.
Seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten".
...this Nison 15, is The First Day of The Feast of Unleavened Bread
and One of the Seven
Biblical ANNUAL SABBATH HIGH DAY Rest Days.
They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians.
Nowhere does God's word teach the 15th of Nisan
is the first day of unleavened bread.
Not Deuteronomy 16:8.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth to sunset on the fourteenth.
"The...important date is the fourteenth of Nisan.
Exodus 12:6 has these instructions: “And ye shall keep it"
(that is, the Paschal Lamb) "up until the fourteenth day
of the same month: and the whole assembly
of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.”
The Passover lamb was to be slain on the fourteenth.
"However, God’s instructions permitted some tolerance
as to the exact time of the slaying of the sacrifice,
and this is extremely significant.
The literal translation of the last clause of verse 6 is
“between the evenings,” not “in the evening.”
According to Hebrew reckoning, a day begins at sunset.
So the fourteenth of Nisan begins at 6 PM
on the day we would call the thirteenth.
And the fourteenth ends
and the fifteenth begins at 6 PM on the following day."
Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth
to sunset on the fourteenth.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
In the observance of the first Passover, God specifically instructed Moses
that the lamb was to be slain in the evening of the fourteenth,
which was the evening that ushered in the day of the fourteenth.
"The Jewish custom down through the centuries, therefore,
was to slay the lamb early in the evening of the fourteenth of Nisan
(which actually was done late in the afternoon of the thirteenth)
and partake of it at the Paschal supper,
which was on the evening preceding the day of Nisan fourteenth.
"The highly significant point, however,
is that the Law permitted the sacrifice to be slain
any time “between the evenings.”
"Thus God made provision for His Son, the true Paschal Lamb,
to partake of the symbolic Paschal lamb
on the evening of the fourteenth
and still offer Himself as an acceptable sacrifice
before the setting of the sun on the day of Nisan fourteenth."
"God’s way is perfect just as His Word is perfect.
Immediately upon the setting of the sun
upon the day of the fourteenth of Nisan, the fifteenth of Nisan began.
"And according to Leviticus 23:6-7 and Numbers 28:18,
this was the day that initiated the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
"In it, the assembly of Israel was to “have an holy convocation”
and to “do no servile work therein.” "
"Josephus, the Jewish historian, tells us that there were sometimes
as many as 250,000 lambs slain on the occasion of the Passover.
"It was necessary that the lambs be slain
by the priests in the temple.
"So the killing of the Passover lambs began
about two or three o’clock in the afternoon of Nisan thirteenth.
"Then by five to five-thirty in the afternoon, all the lambs were slain.
"Josephus confirms that in the years just before the time
of Titus’s destruction of Jerusalem, in A.D. 70,
it was customary to slay the lambs
between the ninth and eleventh hour
(that is, between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM).
"At sundown on the thirteenth of Nisan, the fourteenth began.
"The lamb had been prepared, and when the roasting was complete,
the participants gathered around the table and ate the Passover supper.
"God’s Law of the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread
calls the fourteenth of the month Nisan “the Passover.”
Matthew 26:17-19.
"Notice particularly verse 17:
Bible = “Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread
the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto Him,
Where wilt Thou that we prepare for Thee to eat the Passover?”
“The Passover” was the fourteenth of Nisan
and the Paschal lamb was to be eaten on that day.
“The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread”
was Nisan the fifteenth.
Leviticus 23:5; "The Passover to the LORD begins at twilight
on the fourteenth day of the first month."
Deuteronomy 16:1; "Observe the month of Abib
and celebrate the Passover to the LORD your God,
because in the month of Abib the LORD your God
brought you out of Egypt by night.
2; "You are to offer to the LORD your God
the Passover sacrifice from the herd or flock
in the place the LORD will choose as a dwelling for His Name."
Deuteronomy 16:5; "You are not to sacrifice the Passover animal
in any of the towns that the LORD your God is giving you.
6; "You must only offer the Passover sacrifice
at the place the LORD your God will choose
as a dwelling for His Name.
Do this in the evening as the sun sets,
at the same time you departed from Egypt.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth
to sunset on the fourteenth.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth
to sunset on the fourteenth.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth
to sunset on the fourteenth.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
Therefore, the Passover extends from sunset on the thirteenth
to sunset on the fourteenth.
Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
The issue is not how we we think the Law prescribed the festival or pasdover but how it was practiced in the 1st century.Not taught anywhere in the written word of God.
No, rather what tne word of God explicitly stated, Mark 14:12.The issue is not how we we think the Law prescribed the festival or pasdover but how it was practiced in the 1st century.
God explicitly stated
No, rather what tne word of God explicitly stated, Mark 14:12.
If a Friday, Jesus would have been in the tomb, less than 24 hours.@37818 ,
Let's look at your timeline with Wed being Nisan 14, but per 1st century Jewish laws.
Mark 14:12 would be Tuesday afternoon around 3pm.
Mark 14:22 (the meal) would be Tuesday at sundown.
Mark 14:32 (the Garden) woukd be Tuesday night
Mark 15:1 (Jesus before the government) would be early Wednesday morning.
Mark 15:13 would be Wendsday around 9am
Mark 15:37 woukd be around 3pm on Wednesday
Mark 15:42 (burial) would be just before sunset Wednesday
How do we know this? Because we know the Jewish laws.
Now, I favor Friday instead of Wendsday. This moves up Mark 14:12 about an hour (around 2 pm on Thursday) because under Jewish law if the morning of 14 Nisan falls on Friday then the killing and sacrifice of the Passover is moved up about an hour (probably 1.5 hours our time).