1Cor 6:9-10

[convicted1]

What does this mean to you? Do you believe what this says as stated?

1Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Bro FAL,

Go one more verse further, and you will find the answer you are looking for:

1 Cor. 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

He is stating what can not enter in. But now, you(the Corinithian chuch), who have been washed, cleansed, and justified by the blood of Jesus, and the Spirit of God, are no longer in that lost state. I believe that Paul was showing them what the blood of Christ delivered them from, and us who follow afterwards. IOW, the blood of Jesus delivers us from all manner of sins, and not just some.

i am I AM's!!

Willis

 

[Arbo]

No you may sin on a daily bases not every believer does so. If someone is unaware of something as being sin they cannot claim that they have sinned. It is the same in life. I do not speed. Others claim everyone speeds. Not true. However someone says what if you miss a sign and are speeding? Well if I miss a sign then I do not know about it and I cannot claim I was speeding until it is revealed to me. The same with sin. The scriptures say this;
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin

You dont sin every day? Seriously, are you for real?

The example of speeding in ignorance not really being speeding is flawed. Ask any police officer. Ignorance does not excuse a breach of the law.

 

[freeatlast]

You dont sin every day? Seriously, are you for real?

The example of speeding in ignorance not really being speeding is flawed. Ask any police officer. Ignorance does not excuse a breach of the law.

Yes I am very serious. If you get serious you can do it also. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
[This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

 

[freeatlast]

Bro FAL,

Go one more verse further, and you will find the answer you are looking for:

1 Cor. 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

He is stating what can not enter in. But now, you(the Corinithian chuch), who have been washed, cleansed, and justified by the blood of Jesus, and the Spirit of God, are no longer in that lost state. I believe that Paul was showing them what the blood of Christ delivered them from, and us who follow afterwards. IOW, the blood of Jesus delivers us from all manner of sins, and not just some.

i am I AM's!!

Willis

Salvation not only changes us positionally it changes us experientially. Those who continue to walk in sin are not changed and not saved that is what the passage is saying.

 

[Arbo]

Yes I am very serious. If you get serious you can do it also. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin. There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
[This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Questioning my Christianity is a bit presumptuous of you.

As to your claim that if one sins in ignorance it is not really sin, what do you base that on?

If people didn't face judgement because they didn't know they had sinned, Christ could have done His work in secret. There would be no need for the Bible, the Great commission, or evangelism. It would also be possible that those who did not know Him would have no need of Him simply because of ignorance, not the blood.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

What does this mean to you? Do you believe what this says as stated?

1Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Surely the clue is in the following verse: '....And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.'

Sinners need the Lord Jesus. What's so controversial about that? See Rev 21:27.

Steve

 

[freeatlast]

Questioning my Christianity is a bit presumptuous of you.

As to your claim that if one sins in ignorance it is not really sin, what do you base that on?

If people didn't face judgement because they didn't know they had sinned, Christ could have done His work in secret. There would be no need for the Bible, the Great commission, or evangelism. It would also be possible that those who did not know Him would have no need of Him simply because of ignorance, not the blood.

I am not sure what you mean by questioning your Christianity. If you mean your salvation i did not do that. if you mean your belief in this area then absolutely. I did not say that if someone sins in ignorance they have not sinned. I simply gave scripture. If you got that from scripture then perhaps you better believe it. Ignorance does not make it not sin. It only means that the person cannot claim themself as sinning in a particular point if they do not know about it.

As to your second assumption about ignorance of sin the bible clearly refutes that. Everyone knows that they have sinned in some manner. Some because they have the law and others who are without the law because they sin against their own conscience. Read Romans 2:12

 

[freeatlast]

Surely the clue is in the following verse: '....And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.'

Sinners need the Lord Jesus. What's so controversial about that? See Rev 21:27.

Steve

True, sinners do need the Lord jesus, but once saved we are no longer called sinners. We are saints, new creations who no longer practice the things mentioned in the verses in question for if the person continues in their sin they are not saved.

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

Such a beautiful passage, but of course as others have mentioned you can’t leave out verse 11.

It starts with the universal condemnation of all those evil people we hate so much. Surely they will not enter the kingdom of heaven, but then points out that we were just like they are. Our salvation is not our own and only a work of grace. We have no right to judge those who today are just like we once were. No those sinners will not inherit the kingdom, but they can be washed and sanctified just as we were. And look, that list even includes homosexuals. Anyone who would condemn others because of their current sin has no understanding of this passage.

That is what it means to me.

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

However someone says what if you miss a sign and are speeding? Well if I miss a sign then I do not know about it and I cannot claim I was speeding until it is revealed to me.

When you get a ticket and say you missed the sign how is that going to work out for you? Ignorance does not free you from penalty or blame.
You know what the officer is liable to say when he writes you a ticket, "Tell it to the Judge!"

 

[freeatlast]

Such a beautiful passage, but of course as others have mentioned you can’t leave out verse 11.

It starts with the universal condemnation of all those evil people we hate so much. Surely they will not enter the kingdom of heaven, but then points out that we were just like they are. Our salvation is not our own and only a work of grace. We have no right to judge those who today are just like we once were. No those sinners will not inherit the kingdom, but they can be washed and sanctified just as we were. And look, that list even includes homosexuals. Anyone who would condemn others because of their current sin has no understanding of this passage.

That is what it means to me.

So who was judging anyone?

 

[freeatlast]

When you get a ticket and say you missed the sign how is that going to work out for you? Ignorance does not free you from penalty or blame.
You know what the officer is liable to say when he writes you a ticket, "Tell it to the Judge!"

I never made any such statement. You must have read someone elses post.

 

[Arbo]

If someone is unaware of something as being sin they cannot claim that they have sinned.

Yes, you said that if someone sins in ignorance they have not sinned.

 

[freeatlast]

Yes, you said that if someone sins in ignorance they have not sinned.

No I did not say what you wrote. If you read your bible like you read these posts you don't have a clue as to what the bible says. Here is what I said:
"If someone is unaware of something as being sin they cannot claim that they have sinned".

 

[Arbo]

No I did not say what you wrote. If you read your bible like you read these posts you don't have a clue as to what the bible says. Here is what I said:
"If someone is unaware of something as being sin they cannot claim that they have sinned".

So you disavow your own quote?

 

[freeatlast]

So you disavow your own quote?

No I disavow your lie.

 

[Arbo]

No I disavow your lie.

Nice rebuttal. It is your own quote. You call me a liar for saying you said what you said. You have a problem.

 

[freeatlast]

Nice rebuttal. It is your own quote. You call me a liar for saying you said what you said. You have a problem.

Now you lie about it again. You did not post what I wrote. A quote is a quote, not something that is put in your own words. You posted what you wanted it to say. Different is not the same as difficult as that might be to grasp. Like I said if you read the bible like you read these posts you don't have a clue as to what the bible really teaches.

 

[Arbo]

Now you lie about it again. You did not post what I wrote. A quote is a quote, not something that is put in your own words. You posted what you wanted it to say. Different is not the same as difficult as that might be to grasp. Like I said if you read the bible like you read these posts you don't have a clue as to what the bible really teaches.

My post of your quote (post #33) is from your post #16. I did not paraphrase or rewrite it. It is you own words. You deny you have said what you said and you were confronted with it. You still deny it. I say again you have a problem.

You called me a liar twice. I find it both unchristian and offensive. You owe a brother an apology.

 

[freeatlast]

My post of your quote (post #33) is from your post #16. I did not paraphrase or rewrite it. It is you own words. You deny you have said what you said and you were confronted with it. You still deny it. I say again you have a problem.

You called me a liar twice. I find it both unchristian and offensive. You owe a brother an apology.

Any time I have miss represented something I have always apologized on this board, but I have not done so this time. This is what you posted as a quote from me;
"Yes, you said that if someone sins in ignorance they have not sinned."

This is what I really wrote;
"If someone is unaware of something as being sin they cannot claim that they have sinned"

That first quote is not mine. It is yours. My accusation stands. When you alter a quote or paraphrase it, it is no longer a quote and in this case it totally changes the original intended meaning, which makes my claim about you true. This is why I said if you handle the bible like you do the posts here you do not have a clue as to what it says or means.