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1Peter 1:16

Judith

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It also say's they will hunger no more or thirst. All of this including the crying will pass away once we shed these bodies. It will all be passed tense in heaven.

I agree all this is going to pass and heaven will be a joy. I was trying to drag out or bring to light the false idea that we will remember nothing at all as some hold to. I t5hink we will remember our sins and what the Lord did for us. The joy of what He did will override the sorrow what we have been.
 

Yeshua1

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So you think that passage means we will know everything He knows, we will have omnesience?

No, rather that we wills ee things as he sees them, with perfect moral sight, will know why all things happened as they did, will always be thinking pure rightious thoughts and focused on him always!

All of our thoughts will really be made captive to Christ then!
 

Camery

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He went to prepare a spiritual body for us, for flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

We are living souls just as the created Adam became upon being given breathing life from God. Adam was created the figure of him to come. The Christ, the Son of God, the Son of man was a living soul subject to death and corruption, and he died, and was then raised quickening Spirit.

Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 1 Cor 15:46 That verse is speaking of the resurrected Christ, for he to date is the only one so resurrected.

Jesus is the firstborn from the dead. To die no more. Incorruptible, his flesh did not see corruption.

Romans 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. Acts 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.


When we are born again in that image we neither will sin no more.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9

I can't spend much time in here but as far as I can tell you are correct.
 

Yeshua1

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I agree all this is going to pass and heaven will be a joy. I was trying to drag out or bring to light the false idea that we will remember nothing at all as some hold to. I t5hink we will remember our sins and what the Lord did for us. The joy of what He did will override the sorrow what we have been.

believe that we will be raised up in same body born in, but that body will be same construction as jesus is, of a new order, and will be eternal!

Heaven will be where God is enthrowned in a real sense, seat of rulership over ALL of His creation...

some hold that God will make us forget loved ones who went to hell, but I maintain we will remember, just see it as God does!
 

OldRegular

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I would guess that if there is anything that a true believer gets tired of it is battling their own sin. While we do not practice sin we still have to battle the flesh. We are certainly holy in position because of Christ, but do you think that we will ever be holy like God is holy in application or will we have to battle sin for eternity and be forgiven through out eternity and only be holy in position?
NAS 1Peter 1:16
You shall be holy for I am holy.

Scripture tells us: 1 John 3:2. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If we are like Jesus Christ we shall be without sin or the desire to sin!

When we die and our soul goes to heaven we will be without sin, the sin nature goes into the grave*. After the resurrection our soul and resurrected body will be reunited. We will dwel on the New Heavens and New Earth in the presence of the Triune God and we will be without sin!

* Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:42-46, 50-57

42. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56. The sting of death is sin;
and the strength of sin is the law.
57. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Yeshua1

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Scripture tells us: 1 John 3:2. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. If we are like Jesus Christ we shall be without sin or the desire to sin!

When we die and our soul goes to heaven we will be without sin, the sin nature goes into the grave*. After the resurrection our soul and resurrected body will be reunited. We will dwel on the New Heavens and New Earth in the presence of the Triune God and we will be without sin!

* Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:42-46, 50-57

42. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56. The sting of death is sin;
and the strength of sin is the law.
57. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Amen!

if we still reatained the old flesh and sin nature, that would be more like hell!
 
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