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3 Black Churches burnt in North Carolina, Georgia and S.Carolina in the past 5 days.

Crabtownboy

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Racism, such a blot on our culture.


3 Black Churches burnt in North Carolina, Georgia and S.Carolina in the past 5 days.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/26/1396786/-3-Black-Churches-burnt-in-North-Carolina-Georgia-and-Florida-in-the-past-5-days
 

Revmitchell

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You have been gone for a couple days and all the racism threads have died down in your absence. Maybe it should stay that way for a while.
 

BobRyan

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I am not sure what this is all about - It seems to me that the voice of reason in troubled black communities often comes from Christian Churches - so then who has the "incentive" to burn Christian churches in such a scenario? Who stands to gain from it? What point or statement are they trying to make? ... who are they?
 

righteousdude2

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Who benefits?

Well ......... tell us? Are you saying these fires are insurance related and that they will benefit the churches and the black cause? You always leave us dangling sort of like a dangling participle> :laugh:
 

Scarlett O.

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Racism, such a blot on our culture.

Something else that is a blot on our culture is fake/satirical news sites like dailykos.com. I wouldn't take anything they say for fact, CTB. They sprinkle just enough facts with just enough insinuation and just enough satire to provoke non-truths. It's their purpose.


  • ABC news reported that the church that suffered a partial burning (God's Power Church of Christ) was not a hate crime or racially motivated. They reported that it had been burglarized recently and was probably the target of arson/burglary. The authorities who investigated the fire said there was no evidence of a hate crime.
  • The Washington Post reported that the fire department at Charlotte for Briar Creek Baptist Church said that they have no idea what motivated the fire, but that they were looking into all leads.
  • And several smaller newspapers have reported that the Greater Miracle Apostolic Church burning was an accident.
So yes, three churches have caught on fire and either partially or totally burned.

You call it racism blotting our culture?

The burden of proof is on you.
 

poncho

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Well ......... tell us? Are you saying these fires are insurance related and that they will benefit the churches and the black cause? You always leave us dangling sort of like a dangling participle> :laugh:

No RD2 saying something like that would be akin to fanning the flames of division and thus stealing the limelight away from you and Crabby. I would never dream of doing such a thing as that.

Why do you ask?

What I was saying is it's probably not a good idea to overlook the fact that the corporate media is known for overlooking certain facts to give the impression one thing is happening when something else entirely is going on for political purposes.

After all we are talking about the, what do you conservatives call it again? Oh yeah the "liberal" media.
 
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righteousdude2

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No RD2 saying something like that would be akin to fanning the flames of division and thus stealing the limelight away from you and Crabby. I would never dream of doing such a thing as that.

Why do you ask?

What I was saying is it's probably not a good idea to overlook the fact that the corporate media is known for overlooking certain facts to give the impression one thing is happening when something else entirely is going on for political purposes.

After all we are talking about the, what do you conservatives call it again? Oh yeah the "liberal" media.

Well thanks for making me a new naval opening :smilewinkgrin:
 

Revmitchell

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Something else that is a blot on our culture is fake/satirical news sites like dailykos.com. I wouldn't take anything they say for fact, CTB. They sprinkle just enough facts with just enough insinuation and just enough satire to provoke non-truths. It's their purpose.


  • ABC news reported that the church that suffered a partial burning (God's Power Church of Christ) was not a hate crime or racially motivated. They reported that it had been burglarized recently and was probably the target of arson/burglary. The authorities who investigated the fire said there was no evidence of a hate crime.
  • The Washington Post reported that the fire department at Charlotte for Briar Creek Baptist Church said that they have no idea what motivated the fire, but that they were looking into all leads.
  • And several smaller newspapers have reported that the Greater Miracle Apostolic Church burning was an accident.
So yes, three churches have caught on fire and either partially or totally burned.

You call it racism blotting our culture?

The burden of proof is on you.

It happened to a black church and it was in the south so liberals feel comfortable adding everything else. They think it is their right to do that after all peanut and jelly sandwiches are racist too.
 

Crabtownboy

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At least five predominantly black churches have caught fire in the last week, including at least three that have been the subject of arson, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports.

The string of blazes, which have occurred in four Southern states and Ohio, comes a week after nine people were gunned down at a Charleston, South Carolina, church. Dylann Roof, 21, has been charged with nine counts of homicide and possession of a firearm during commission of a violent crime.

An arsonist set fire to the College Hills Seventh Day Adventist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, on Monday. The following day, God’s Power Church of Christ in Macon, Georgia, was gutted by flames. And on Wednesday, Briar Creek Baptist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, was deliberately set ablaze, causing more than $250,000 in damage.

Briar Creek Pastor Mannix Kinsey told a local news station he hopes the event turns out not to be a hate crime, and the culprit is "already forgiven," but he's worried about "the climate."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/28/black-churches-fire_n_7681754.html
 

Scarlett O.

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CTB, you still haven't proven that these churches that received damage - some of them great damage - were set on fire by white people who hate. And actually, as of today, there are six churches that are black or partially black that have received fire damage, but only three of them are suspected of arson.
 
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just-want-peace

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CTB, you still haven't proven that these churches that received damage - some of them great damage - were set on fire by white people who hate.

I sincerely hope you meant this as a rhetorical statement - since there is no reason to believe that certain (all?) liberals are going to use any discretion in pushing their agenda.
Take the disaster and run with it before reason and logic confuse the issue. The faithful will take the first report (regardless of the truth involved) and ignore anything after!
 

poncho

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I sincerely hope you meant this as a rhetorical statement - since there is no reason to believe that certain (all?) liberals are going to use any discretion in pushing their agenda.
Take the disaster and run with it before reason and logic confuse the issue. The faithful will take the first report (regardless of the truth involved) and ignore anything after!

That's exactly right, for example the Russians were being blamed by certain (all?) people here for the downing of flight MH17 in Ukraine before any evidence became available at all to push their agenda.

Oh wait, you were talking about liberals weren't you? My bad.
 
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Crabtownboy

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I sincerely hope you meant this as a rhetorical statement - since there is no reason to believe that certain (all?) liberals are going to use any discretion in pushing their agenda.
Take the disaster and run with it before reason and logic confuse the issue. The faithful will take the first report (regardless of the truth involved) and ignore anything after!

Are you suggesting that those that were fired by arson was done by people who love black churches?

 

Bro. Curtis

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Are you suggesting that those that were fired by arson was done by people who love black churches?

I've been suggesting you use more care in reporting your "news" items for a long time.

And perhaps you meant to say "blight on our culture ?" Maybe not.
 

Zaac

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At least five predominantly black churches have caught fire in the last week, including at least three that have been the subject of arson, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports.

The string of blazes, which have occurred in four Southern states and Ohio, comes a week after nine people were gunned down at a Charleston, South Carolina, church. Dylann Roof, 21, has been charged with nine counts of homicide and possession of a firearm during commission of a violent crime.

An arsonist set fire to the College Hills Seventh Day Adventist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, on Monday. The following day, God’s Power Church of Christ in Macon, Georgia, was gutted by flames. And on Wednesday, Briar Creek Baptist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, was deliberately set ablaze, causing more than $250,000 in damage.

Briar Creek Pastor Mannix Kinsey told a local news station he hopes the event turns out not to be a hate crime, and the culprit is "already forgiven," but he's worried about "the climate."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/28/black-churches-fire_n_7681754.html

It's sad that people seem so unwilling to acknowledge what's going on right in front of them. It's not like this is the first time in history that white supremacists have used this tactic. 5 black churches are burned and some are questioning if it's race related or just what, accidental?
 

just-want-peace

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It's sad that people seem so unwilling to acknowledge what's going on right in front of them. It's not like this is the first time in history that white supremacists have used this tactic. 5 black churches are burned and some are questioning if it's race related or just what, accidental?

And several years back, I remember a rash of black churches being torched somewhere in OK, or AK or ??.
Several weeks after all the blame was centered on "southerners, racists, GOP etc" it was determined that a young (upper teens, lower 20s) black man was the perp trying to stir up strife.

So yes, the bolded is correct. However you must also look beyond "right in front of you" to find the facts!
 

Scarlett O.

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[Oh, forget it.]

I guess fact checking when an OP quotes from a fake news site is the new word for racism! You should do some fact checking yourself, Zaac. White supremacists haven't been blamed for these yet. Three of the six fires have been declared NOT a hate crime. The fourth was declared an accident. The other two are under investigation. Those two may be hate crimes.

I'll leave you with this. When dailykos.com is cited - I don't trust it. I fact check.
 
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