30,000+ protastant denominations

[GraceSaves]

DHK,

Doctrine and discipline are not the same thing at all. I don't know how you derive that they are, and the dictionary doesn't seem to agree with you either.

And, even if they DID mean the same thing outside of the Catholic Church, what would that matter? Celibacy has never been declared an unchangable teaching, so why are we even arguing about this? It CAN NEVER change that Jesus is the Son of God. That is a doctrine, and is obviously on a different plane than a practice.

Further, if there were only TWO denominations, that's still one too many.

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by DHK:
Like your friend T2U, a very good defence for the topic at hand: "30,000 Protestant denominations." When you have nothing good to say just ridicule. It seems to be a regular pattern around here.
DHK

Gee, DHK, can you point out a single post where I have done such a thing?

To point out to you that you interpert Scripture is not ridicule.

BTW, my consistent response to the 30,000 denomination thing has been to suggest contacting the source of the number. I have given the address a few times now.

 

[DHK]

Originally posted by GraceSaves:
DHK,

Doctrine and discipline are not the same thing at all. I don't know how you derive that they are, and the dictionary doesn't seem to agree with you either.

And, even if they DID mean the same thing outside of the Catholic Church, what would that matter? Celibacy has never been declared an unchangable teaching, so why are we even arguing about this? It CAN NEVER change that Jesus is the Son of God. That is a doctrine, and is obviously on a different plane than a practice.

Further, if there were only TWO denominations, that's still one too many.

I don't think you have been following this thread closely enough. I never said that doctrine and discipline are the same thing. Of course they are different. You ought to go back and read what I said on the matter of how they differ. I gave plenty of Biblical examples.

On the matter of doctrine: Doctrine is teaching. That is the Biblical definition, and the dictiionary definition. You cannot get away from that by changing the definition. It is the Catholic Church that wants to change the definition of doctrine here to "discipline," not me. I gave a quote from the "Documents of Vatican II," which gives extensive teaching on the celibacy of the priesthood. If it is teaching it is doctrine. They were discussing a doctrine of the church--celibacy--whether they called it a doctrine or not. That is just plain semantics. It is a teaching of the church, and thus a doctrine. Words have meanings.

"And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' DOCTRINE. What do you think that verse means? I will guarantee you one thing. One of the doctrines they did not continue in was the celibacy of the priesthood, for Peter himself was married. It is an unbiblical doctrine, a doctrine which Paul himself calls, a doctrine of demons (1Tim.4:1-3).
DHK

 

[DHK]

Originally posted by trying2understand:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DHK:
Like your friend T2U, a very good defence for the topic at hand: "30,000 Protestant denominations." When you have nothing good to say just ridicule. It seems to be a regular pattern around here.
DHK

Gee, DHK, can you point out a single post where I have done such a thing?

To point out to you that you interpert Scripture is not ridicule.

BTW, my consistent response to the 30,000 denomination thing has been to suggest contacting the source of the number. I have given the address a few times now. </font>[/QUOTE]First: go back to one of my first posts here, and find the link that I provided. That will give you a reference point to the 30,000.

Seond: To point out on a continual basis that everything I have to offer is just my opinion, nothing but my personal interpretation is ridicule. If you have nothing to offer to the discussion at hand then don't. In the thread: "I will build my church," you, GraceSaves, and Thessalonian, all have simply offered: "it's your opinion," excuses instead of offering Scripture. What is wrong here T2U? Don't you know your Bible well enough to discuss the meaning of the word "church"? Or are you afraid that your entire Catholic theology will be decimated. Do you have to resort to such ridicule (and that is what it is) almost all the time? Example:

Ok, DHK. If it will make it easier for you, in the future I will try to remember to say, "That is merely your personal version of dividing of the word of truth."

Need I say more?
DHK

 

[thessalonian]

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[rlvaughn]

Originally posted by trying2understand:
BTW, my consistent response to the 30,000 denomination thing has been to suggest contacting the source of the number. I have given the address a few times now.

As I have shown on page 8, the source of the number (Global Evangelization Movement; World Christian Encyclopedia) may be found online. They may also be contacted them by e-mail in addition to the snail mail (look at the bottom of the page of the link I give below). The link has the number at #44, "Denominations," under "Christian Organizations." In the way the GEM/WCE has chosen to define denominations, the number 33,800 (or 36,400 for mid-2003) is the total of all "Christian" denominations, shown in the six ecclesiastical megablocs.

Status of Global Mission, 2003

 

[gb93433]

Originally posted by thessalonian:
"The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."

I take it you think you can judge me.

That would be a fool saying that he is God. Didn't Lucifer try that route.

God Bless you GB

That's quite a serious offense to call someone a fool. Ijust thought I would bring to your attention what characterizes a fool according to scripture.

Psalm 14:1,"The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

 

[neal4christ]

Ah, another Protestant who can read Catholics hearts and minds and intentions. Are you calling me a liar? If so go right ahead and put it in black and white.

Further, you have not proven the number to be false contrary to your high opinion of your posts.

I really am beginning to wonder what your purpose is on this board any more other than to be a gnat buzzing around catholics heads trying to show them to be inferior. You do not engage in any significant theological discussion. Seems that realtivism is the mode you have embraced.

I am done wasting my time with your petty little posts Neal. Your a biggot as much as DHK.

Ahh....so you are the one who sent the hateful email with no theological information and just petty attacks, Gerald. Come on, you can do better than that, my friend. Refute the numbers, since they are STRAIGHT from the book. If you look back, you are the one with nothing to say of substance. Really, look at the posts. And yes, if you say Catholics (not you in particular) have not used these inflated numbers around here as an argument against Protestants, yes, you are lying because I have been the receiving end of those arguments.

Please, go to the book and look at the number. I want you to, my friend. I have documented my posts, not just spoke from off the top of my head. Refute it.

In Christ,
Neal