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3rd graders chant: Obama 'uniting blacks and whites'

alatide

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That's a rather obtuse question, given the thread topic I think. It's flirting with the crime of race-baiting, I'd say.

Criticizing school children for praising that we are becoming less racist in the US doesn't seem like the Christian thing to do to me. All people should live together in peace, right?
 

Twizzler

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Criticizing school children for praising that we are becoming less racist in the US doesn't seem like the Christian thing to do to me. All people should live together in peace, right?
A beautiful open-field maneuver here, Alatide. Shift the topic from one thing to something else... Nice try. I'm clearly (and if it wasn't clear to your eyes before, I'm making it clear now) criticizing the fact that our teachers have students in public schools singing praises to the POTUS. If they were singing America the Beautiful or God Bless America, I wouldn't have any problem with it, though I'm sure you're going to point out the error of my ways because God Bless America violates the separation of church and state.

I see the indoctrination going on with my own kids in school and I praise God that they're old enough to finally realize what's going on and that they think for themselves in these matters. Unfortunately these third graders really aren't old enough to think for themselves yet, they lean on what their teachers say as well as bend to peer pressure to be part of the cool (or green) crowd.

Keep it on topic, please.
 

Crabtownboy

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That you repeatedly ask this question suggests to me that for some reason you believe me to be other than Black.

Why do you assume such?

Whether you are African American or not is beside the point. Why not ask your African American friends if Obama's election has changed their opinion or racism in America?
 

Bro. Curtis

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Are blacks the only ones qualified to answer the question of Obama bringing the races together ?
 

Andy T.

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CBT, I've actually witnessed more racism in America since Obama was elected. I've seen people accused (including myself) of being racist simply because we disagree with the President on issues. That in itself is racism - i.e., to assume that a white person cannot reasonably disagree with a black President without being racist.
 

Crabtownboy

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CBT, I've actually witnessed more racism in America since Obama was elected. I've seen people accused (including myself) of being racist simply because we disagree with the President on issues. That in itself is racism - i.e., to assume that a white person cannot reasonably disagree with a black President without being racist.

There is some of that, no doubt about it and it is wrong. There are those who oppose Obama simply because he is not white and that is wrong. But, as you point out there are those who do not agree with his policies and that is all right also.

Remember, however, that when GB was in office he and the far right said that anyone opposed to his policies were not patriotic. That was just as wrong in its own way as assuming someone is racist simply because they are opposed to the current administrations policies.

That being said, I will stand by my statement that his election has had a positive impace on the African American community concerning racism.
 

targus

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Whether you are African American or not is beside the point. Why not ask your African American friends if Obama's election has changed their opinion or racism in America?

If being Black is beside the point - why is asking an African American also not beside the point?

Do African Americans have some special information concerning bring the races together?

Are Blacks the only ones relevant to relations between the races?
 

Crabtownboy

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If being Black is beside the point - why is asking an African American also not beside the point?

Do African Americans have some special information concerning bring the races together?

Are Blacks the only ones relevant to relations between the races?

Because I believe it made the biggest impact on the African American community. So, again, go ask your friends.
 

annsni

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I did not see anything about worshiping Obama in the piece linked.

I did see the following:

Education is the key. Education is the secret.
Education is the way. Education is the path.
Can I make America better?
Can I make America better?
Can we make America better?
Yes! Yes we can!
Yes! Yes we can!


This to me was the thrust of the piece and I see nothing wrong with encouraging kids to become educated and in teaching them they can make a difference..

Hmm - I always thought Jesus is the way. I guess not.
 

webdog

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CBT, I've actually witnessed more racism in America since Obama was elected. I've seen people accused (including myself) of being racist simply because we disagree with the President on issues. That in itself is racism - i.e., to assume that a white person cannot reasonably disagree with a black President without being racist.
I agree, it has done nothing IMO to bring the races together. My black friends on facebook basically think if you don't support Obama, you are a racist. It's put a bigger wedge between the races!
 

targus

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Because I believe it made the biggest impact on the African American community. So, again, go ask your friends.

You seem quite racist in your assumptions that Blacks think differently than other members of the U.S. population based simply on their race.
 

Andy T.

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I will stand by my statement that his election has had a positive impace on the African American community concerning racism.
Maybe in one sense it has. But in another sense, the black community (and the liberal elitist white community) has expressed more hatred towards whites who disagree with Obama's policies by accusing them of being racists.

Racism is alive and well, and Obama's election has exposed deep-seated hatred that was likely already there, but now has been exposed when someone dares to disagree with the President. In fact, I've seen you participate in this type of racism yourself, CTB.
 

Crabtownboy

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What have your black friends said, and are only our black friends qualified to answer this question?

My African American friends have told me it has made a big impact in the ways I mentioned.

My friends in Europe and Asia have told me that Obama's election has had a very positive impact on how America is viewed there.

I was in Prague, Czech Republic on election day ... voted by absentee ballot through the American embassy there ... and the impact on the feeling of people toward the United States was immediate and very positive there.
 

targus

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My African American friends have told me it has made a big impact in the ways I mentioned.

My friends in Europe and Asia have told me that Obama's election has had a very positive impact on how America is viewed there.

I was in Prague, Czech Republic on election day ... voted by absentee ballot through the American embassy there ... and the impact on the feeling of people toward the United States was immediate and very positive there.

Your African American friends...

Your European friends....

Your Asian friends...

People in Prague...

Those sound like different races to me - not just African Americans.

So why did you tell me to ask my African American friends?

Why did you not simply ask me to ask my friends without reference to race?

My guess is that having been called on your apparent racism in insisting that Blacks think differently from the rest of the U.S. population - and apparently in a monolithic mind - simply based on their race, you are now backpedaling.

Doesn't change a thing.

One of the gifts that God has given me is the ability to see through the baloney that people dish out and I've seen through yours.
 

Crabtownboy

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Your African American friends...

Your European friends....

Your Asian friends...

People in Prague...

Those sound like different races to me - not just African Americans.

So why did you tell me to ask my African American friends?

Why did you not simply ask me to ask my friends without reference to race?

My guess is that having been called on your apparent racism in insisting that Blacks think differently from the rest of the U.S. population - and apparently in a monolithic mind - simply based on their race, you are now backpedaling.

Doesn't change a thing.

One of the gifts that God has given me is the ability to see through the baloney that people dish out and I've seen through yours.

Ask all your friends. Let me know what they say. It should be interesting.
 

targus

New Member
Ask all your friends. Let me know what they say. It should be interesting.

Why should I ask anyone?

Is any one of my friends opinon more valid than my own?

And what if my friends say that Obama has made race relations worse?

Then what?

Will you tell me to ask other people?

What is your point?

And what happened to asking my "African American" friends?

It seems that being called out has rehabilitated you to some extent.
 
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