6 Years Left Until the Second Coming of Yeshuah

[Reformed1689]

How comical. Now you've moved on from trying to discredit the truth by using a dumb argument regarding usage of 1 translated word over another translated verse to now trying to use another dumb argument if I am Hebrew scholar or not, as if the truth can only be known by scholars. It never ceases to amaze me how people who don't want to believe something simply because they don't want to believe it always try finding stupid reasons to throw it out, all to their own demise.

Knowing the truth first starts with knowing what the original words actually say and mean. So no, it is not a dumb argument, it is on point and crucial.

 

[gaviria.christian]

Been studying that stuff, likely since before you were born, along with several "ologies" such as paleontology, archaeology, some geology, etc.

There's plenty of evidence for a great age of the earth. Know why Noah didn't take any dinosaurs on the ark? BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY LONG-EXTINCT. God had Noah take at least one pair of every land animal, bird, & insect on earth at that time aboard the ark, placed them all in a state of estivation, & took each one where it belonged when they left the ark.

There's clear evidence that great disasters hit earth before man was here, such as the asteroid hit near Yucutan Peninsula that killed most life on earth at the time.

And many now-extinct creatures were better-equipped to survive than their modern counterparts. anexample is the woolly mammoth, which could live in a variety of climates, unlike modern elephants. Also, the leading cause of death among wild elephants is that their teeth wear out so theu can't adequately chew their food enough to digest it. The mammoth's teeth were much-harder & didn't wear out. Yet, mammoths are extinct, while elephants, of course, are not.

And mammoths were gone long before God made men, much-longer than 6K years.

When studying Scripture, you must also study history. Remember, Scripture shapes history, so history is a large key to PROPERLY interpret Scripture.

Sigh. You were doing good up until the point you said "much-longer than 6K years". There is error in what you say.

 

[gaviria.christian]

Knowing the truth first starts with knowing what the original words actually say and mean. So no, it is not a dumb argument, it is on point and crucial.

I agree. What I call "dumb" is your attempt to ask for credentials, as if credentials would somehow make what I say true, or not true, for that matter. Truth is not contingent upon the credentials of whoever says it. Truth is truth, and if everyone graduated from Yale or Harvard and had no truth, then their credentials are as worthless as poo in a toilet. Even the smartest men in the world did not have credentials. Go ask Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. So, let us re-approach your next objection. I already answered your first objection and proved myself right, which is why you moved on to a second objection, which I've also just proved myself right. So let me ask you this, why would you not believe that the Messiah will return in the year 6,000, since from these passages I quoted it seems to be logical and intelligent and true? And let us not even regard the current year we are in since creation. Let us pretend we are in the year 2,000 since creation, so that there is no bias based on fear of an imminent approaching year 6000. So why would you not believe this obvious truth of scripture?

 

[Reformed1689]

What I call "dumb" is your attempt to ask for credentials, as if credentials would somehow make what I say true, or not true, for that matter.

I asked for your credentials because you are going against what almost every Hebrew scholar says that verse states.

Truth is not contingent upon the credentials of whoever says it.

I didn't claim that it was.

I already answered your first objection and proved myself right, which is why you moved on to a second objection, which I've also just proved myself right.

No, you actually didn't prove anything. All you did was say it was so.

So let me ask you this, why would you not believe that the Messiah will return in the year 6,000, since from these passages I quoted it seems to be logical and intelligent and true?

Two reasons. First, you have a false premise that each day in creation represents a literal 1,000 years. Second, nobody knows the day or hour so we are to always be watching. We were not intended to know the time of his return.

So why would you not believe this obvious truth of scripture?

Because that "truth" is not in Scripture but only in your own mind.

 

[gaviria.christian]

I asked for your credentials because you are going against what almost every Hebrew scholar says that verse states.


I didn't claim that it was.


No, you actually didn't prove anything. All you did was say it was so.


Two reasons. First, you have a false premise that each day in creation represents a literal 1,000 years. Second, nobody knows the day or hour so we are to always be watching. We were not intended to know the time of his return.


Because that "truth" is not in Scripture but only in your own mind.

Well the funny thing is that I didn't come up with this, that the Messiah will return in the year 6000. I got it from ancient texts, which all correlates quite logically with what the scriptures says,

For in 6 days Yehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the 7th day. Therefore Yehovah blessed the Shabbath day and set it apart.
Exodus 20:11

Blessed and set-apart are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of the Messiah and will rule with him for 1,000 years.
Revelation 20:6

For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains, then, a Shabbath rest for the people of God.
Hebrews 4:8-9

1,000 years in your sight are like 1 day…
Psalm 90:4

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that 1 day is with the Master as a 1,000 years, and a 1,000 years as 1 day.
2 Peter 3:8

Of the Shabbath he spoke in the beginning of the creation. And
God made the works of his hands in 6 days, and he ended on the
7th day, and rested on it, and he set it apart. Give heed, children, what this means; He ended in 6 days. He means this, that in 6,000 years the Master shall bring all things to an end, for 1 day with him signifies a 1,000 years. And with this he himself bears me witness, saying, “behold, the day of the Master shall be as a 1,000 years”. Therefore, children, in 6 days, that is in 6,000 years, everything shall come to an end. And he rested on the 7th day. By this he means, when his son shall come, and shall abolish the time of the torahless one, and shall judge the impious, then shall he truly rest on the 7th day.
Barnabas 15:4-5

Note: This is merely a reference to an external literature to help strengthen the statements made in this study, and not an endorsement of any other statements made in the Epistle of Barnabas.
The set-apart one, blessed be he, created seven aeons, and of them all he chose the seventh aeon only. The six aeons are for the going in and coming out, for war and peace. The seventh aeon is entirely Shabbath and rest in the aeonial life. The set-apart one, blessed be he, created seven days, and of them all he chose the seventh day only, as it is said, “and God blessed the seventh day, and set it apart”.
Midrash by Pirke De Rabbi Eliezer
Note: This is merely a reference to an external literature to help strengthen the statements made in this study, and not an endorsement of any other statements made in the Midrash.

So what do I base my argument that the Messiah will return in the year 6000? On these passages. And what do you base your argument that the Messiah will not return in the year 6000? On your mere disbelief of what these passages say. No different than an atheist who also doesn't believe any of this either. I can't help you there, because incredulity will prevent you from seeing the truth even if I were to perform miracles before your very eyes to prove that what I'm saying is true. You are blind, to the obvious truth.

 

[Reformed1689]

Well the funny thing is that I didn't come up with this, that the Messiah will return in the year 6000. I got it from ancient texts, which all correlates quite logically with what the scriptures says,









So what do I base my argument that the Messiah will return in the year 6000? On these passages. And what do you base your argument that the Messiah will not return in the year 6000? On your mere disbelief of what these passages say. No different than an atheist who also doesn't believe any of this either. I can't help you there, because incredulity will prevent you from seeing the truth even if I were to perform miracles before your very eyes to prove that what I'm saying is true. You are blind, to the obvious truth.

And none of those passages state anything close to what you claim.

 

[Reynolds]

Guys. And gals. We are around 6 years away from the second coming of the Messiah, in 2026 AD. I've outlined a bible study explaining how I know, and what's about to happen, and when. I know all of this because I know the appointed times of the Torah and the original 360 day calendar of the Torah. Knowing all of this is key in unlocking the secrets regarding the second coming of Yeshuah. It's intelligent. So inform yourselves. Believe. Prepare. Obey. Here is the link to the bible study. Estimated Dates of the Events of the 1 Year Great Tribulation of the Earth | Wisdom of God

Another date setter.... When will people ever learn?????

 

[Reynolds]

It's hard to win people that are already obstinate. I gave you the information for free, for your own benefit. You should be thanking me. Your welcome.

There is no shortage of false information available for free. Kind of like wanting applause for dumping garbage on my doorstep.

 

[robycop3]

Sigh. You were doing good up until the point you said "much-longer than 6K years". There is error in what you say.

No, it ISN'T.

Not trying to boast, byt MY knowledge of Scripture & the "ologies" I mentioned is likely much-greater than YOURS is.

The evidence is right in front of us. The dinos, & other extinct animals lived a lot more long-ago than a mere 6K years.

I live near the Appalachian Mts. They once were as high or higher than the Rockies. However, most have eroded into hills now. And mountains just don't erode overnight without being washed away. had the Apps eroded quickly, they'd still just be bare rock, with the soil & silt being washed away.

And fossils don't form overnight, either. it takes a LONG time for the bone to be replaced with rock, and to be buried 50 feet deep without any sign of violence.

Study, & learn the TRUTH.

 

[robycop3]

Another date setter.... When will people ever learn?????

"When will they ever learn?,
When will they ev-er learn?"

-Where have All The Flowers Gone?, Pete Seeger, 1955, additional verses by Joe Hickson, 1960

 

[gaviria.christian]

No, it ISN'T.

Not trying to boast, byt MY knowledge of Scripture & the "ologies" I mentioned is likely much-greater than YOURS is.

The evidence is right in front of us. The dinos, & other extinct animals lived a lot more long-ago than a mere 6K years.

I live near the Appalachian Mts. They once were as high or higher than the Rockies. However, most have eroded into hills now. And mountains just don't erode overnight without being washed away. had the Apps eroded quickly, they'd still just be bare rock, with the soil & silt being washed away.

And fossils don't form overnight, either. it takes a LONG time for the bone to be replaced with rock, and to be buried 50 feet deep without any sign of violence.

Study, & learn the TRUTH.

Ah, a man wise in his own eye. I foresee you falling flat on your face in the near future. Your facts are not all correct, and because of your own pride you prevent yourself from becoming even smarter, because you won't listen to other people that know things that you obviously do not know. And that will be your downfall, your pride, unless you change of course, which I doubt will happen. The earth is less than 6,000 years old, and the Messiah will return in the year 6,000 since creation, which we are now approaching. Blessed are those who know and understand this, and prepared.

 

[Reynolds]

Ah, a man wise in his own eye. I foresee you falling flat on your face in the near future. Your facts are not all correct, and because of your own pride you prevent yourself from becoming even smarter, because you won't listen to other people that know things that you obviously do not know. And that will be your downfall, your pride, unless you change of course, which I doubt will happen. The earth is less than 6,000 years old, and the Messiah will return in the year 6,000 since creation, which we are now approaching. Blessed are those who know and understand this, and prepared.

The only thing I foresee is that in the very near future you get banned.

 

[gaviria.christian]

The only thing I foresee is that in the very near future you get banned.

Probably. Because of how lost you people are in not discerning that I am actually telling you the truth. Oh well.

 

[padredurand]

I will wait until 2027 to point out your "prophesy" is false. If He tarries that long.

 

[gaviria.christian]

I will wait until 2027 to point out your "prophesy" is false. If He tarries that long.

That won't happen. And if you tarry that long waiting and not doing anything to prepare you won't even be alive by then to see I was right.

 

[padredurand]

That won't happen. And if you tarry that long waiting and not doing anything to prepare you won't even be alive by then to see I was right.

You are joining the hundreds who have speculated about something you could never know.

Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
Acts 1:6-7 NKJV

It is not for you to know. You have no knowledge nor authority to determine that which God alone knows. I will await 2027 before I call you a false prophet.

 

[gaviria.christian]

You are joining the hundreds who have speculated about something you could never know.

Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
Acts 1:6-7 NKJV

It is not for you to know. You have no knowledge nor authority to determine that which God alone knows. I will await 2027 before I call you a false prophet.

I'm not not joining anybody. The scriptures declare that the Messiah will return in the year 6000, as I have quoted and shown. So all I have done is add the genealogies and timelines of the scriptures to determine the year we are in since creation, to then determine how many years are left until the year 6000. It is intelligent and logical. That is what sets apart my predictions from any other man. And the year 6000 will also be precisely 2,000 years since the anointing of the Messiah. You have to be quite dumb to not understand the significance of the year we are approaching. But so be it. Dogs cannot appreciate pearls. But blessed are those who listen and prepare.

 

[padredurand]

I'm not not joining anybody. The scriptures declare that the Messiah will return in the year 6000, as I have quoted and shown. So all I have done is add the genealogies and timelines of the scriptures to determine the year we are in since creation, to then determine how many years are left until the year 6000. It is intelligent and logical. That is what sets apart my predictions from any other man. And the year 6000 will also be precisely 2,000 years since the anointing of the Messiah. You have to be quite dumb to not understand the significance of the year we are approaching. But so be it. Dogs cannot appreciate pearls. But blessed are those who listen and prepare.

The hundreds before you thought they had the perfect formula. The Bible is clear. It is not for you to know. I know you are sincere in your belief. In this you are sincerely wrong.

And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
Acts 1:6-7 NKJV

It is for God alone to determine the time. Speculation nor the determined insistence by you shall change this. If God so acts in 2027, it is of His determination and will not your fuzzy math feigning to be prophetic.

 

[gaviria.christian]

The hundreds before you thought they had the perfect formula. The Bible is clear. It is not for you to know. I know you are sincere in your belief. In this you are sincerely wrong.

And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
Acts 1:6-7 NKJV

It is for God alone to determine the time. Speculation nor the determined insistence by you shall change this. If God so acts in 2027, it is of His determination and will not your fuzzy math feigning to be prophetic.

That's because it wasn't given to the disciples to know the times that were much later on in time clearly revealed to us in the book of Revelation. They had no idea about the 7 plagues of Revelation, nor even about the mark of the beast, nor even about the 7 trumpets of Revelation. The book of Revelation wasn't immediately given to mankind after the ascension of Yeshuah into heaven. It came much later in time when assemblies were already scattered in Asia. We have knowledge that is exclusive to our generations that was not known to them, and that's why there are things we know that they did not know, even Paul. And that's especially true to us right now even more so than men 1,000 years ago, because we are truly approaching the year 6000 since creation. So it's more obvious now than ever that the Messiah was truly appointed to return in the year 6000, exactly as we see written in ancient texts. Why is this so difficult for you people to understand? God has given us his appointed times in the Torah not to blindfold ourselves and say "we cannot know", but to know what to expect and when through study, because the appointed times of the Torah are the appointed times of Yeshuah. They are the appointed times of THIS EARTH. It's precisely how the wise men were able to calculate the 1st coming of Yeshuah, using timelines given by God, which in their case was in the book of Daniel, and in our case it is the appointed times of the autumn of the Torah and the book of Revelation. How I've determined the year of the second coming is wise and intelligent, but because you people are devoid of any intelligence in scripture you misconstrue what I am saying to be lie rather than understand deeply that it is actually true. Even the Jews themselves know that the Messiah will come in the year 6000. So what I'm saying is not really anything new. Only the ignorant are left in darkness not knowing what's going to happen and when, and even when they are told, they refuse to believe, like blind men refusing to be helped. And they get angry at those trying to help them, even worse. Don't be that way. Let yourselves be taught so you can become smarter and prepared for what's about to take place. Don't perish with the masses, even many believers, who know nothing of what's about to take place. I say this with love, but I also speak sternly because I perceive so much stubbornness and hardness of heart among you people.

 

[padredurand]

Only the ignorant are left in darkness not knowing what's going to happen and when, and even when they are told, they refuse to believe, like blind men refusing to be helped. And they get angry at those trying to help them, even worse. Don't be that way. Let yourselves be taught so you can become smarter and prepared for what's about to take place. Don't perish with the masses, even many believers, who know nothing of what's about to take place. I say this with love, but I also speak sternly because I perceive so much stubbornness and hardness of heart among you people.

I have more trouble with hardness of heads, The Bible is clear

Luke 12:35-40 NKJV

35 "Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning;
36 and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately.
37 Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching. Assuredly, I say to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them.
38 And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
39 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.
40 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect."​

We are instructed to be expectant not speculative. Being ready is to be born again, blood bought and redeemed. For emphasis for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Maybe it will happen in 2027. If it does it is because God determined it to happen. He is under no obligation to respond to your speculation. I am ready for His coming today waist girded and lamps burning. I am ready because of His grace and not out of fear nor fear mongering. He commands us to be watchful always. We do so out of love- our love for Him because He loved us first. Jesus is coming again. Verse 38 says it does not matter whether He comes on the 2d watch or the 3d. He is coming. That is enough.

Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Matthew 24:44 NKJV​

These words are uttered from the very lips of Jesus Christ. That is as authoritative as it gets. Your speculation is based on a Casio calculator and fuzzy logic. I am compelled to reject your prophesy as false when weighed against the very words of Jesus Christ. You have no way of knowing the unknowable.