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666 - The scriptural [KJB] Truth

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utilyan

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Sister Ellen G. White, is indeed a prophet[ess], but her functions included much more than the role of prophet, see: 1SM 32.4; etc.

I have never hidden, buried, obscured (etc.) such information, but I am always open and free with it, even unashamedly so (since I believe it to be so of her, and with documentable evidences in abundance), even ready to fully document the facts from scripture [KJB], prophecy and history. In another thread of course, as the purpose of this thread is the fulfillment of the position of the pontiff, and the papal system and 666. If you would like to discuss sister White, please begin a new thread, and I may join you there, with much documented evidence.

As for the words of prophets (other than Jesus Christ) being infallible, is very incorrect. In scripture [KJB], prophets (male or female) say and do all kinds of things which had to be corrected (by God, His word, etc), each case may be documented upon request, in another thread. This is not that thread, please see the OP topic.

Sister White herself said, in several occasions, that she was not infallible:

Letter 27, May 16, 1876, par. 3 -

"... I wish that self should be hid in Jesus. I wish self to be crucified. I do not claim infallibility, or even perfection of Christian character. I am not free from mistakes and errors in my life. Had I followed my Saviour more closely, I should not have to mourn so much my unlikeness to His dear image. ..."
Don't forget the context of that statement. Thank you.

See also Letter 10, June 9, 1895, par. 6 also, sister White said of herself, "... In regard to infallibility, I never claimed it. ..."; and so on.

Please try to remain on OP, as this is your second admonition, in charity.

More then a Prophet. Brother everything Moses said was a go written and wrote scripture.

If Ellen G White is a prophet Then anything she would say is GOD-BREATHED carrying divine authority.

I'm saying Claiming to be Prophet is HIGHER THEN INFALLIBILITY, A prophet is a mouth piece direct from God. That means God tells her to say, ect.

You are going to tell me what God says is not infallible? I call baloney!


Either she speaks for GOD or NOT, there is no in-between when it comes to claiming to be a PROPHET.


You got bigger fish to fry: --> ABORTION

SDA HOSPITALS MURDER MILLIONS. Anything that comes out of your mouth is trash to me because after all you support the MURDER OF CHILDREN.

Tell me you are against abortion and if you are tell my why the SDA IS NOT.

You can go to their official website. I don't have to show any anti-sda or hate sites. Go to their official stance is ALLOW ABORTIONS.

The SDA HOSPITALS are KILLING CHILDREN.


The "OP" is you accuse the catholic church to be in service of the devil. I'm flipping it back on you because YOU SUPPORT ABORTIONS.
 

utilyan

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Though we walk the fence, Adventists lean toward abortion rather than against it. Because we realize we are confronted by big problems of hunger and overpopulation, we do not oppose family planning and appropriate endeavors to control population.” -- Neal Wilson SDA PRESIDENT
 

HankD

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What a mulligan stew of pseudo historical documents mixed with scripture!

Some one called it baloney.

Yes, better yet an Italian (where the Vatican is) giro ("Hero") sandwich is quite appropriate -
Salami, mortadella, cupicola with some provolone cheese pepperocini and a splash of oil and vinegar.

Oh wait, SDA are vegetarians (or supposed to be).

I see the ABORTION issue is ignored. Personally I will then ignore the giro sandwich posts.

HankD
 

utilyan

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The Abortion issue is kept hush. If they try to bring it up via general conference it gets shot down by the top dogs, of course why? Because SDA HOSPITALS make money killing people.

I bet when they realize their evil and its all said and done, They going to find a way to blame us Catholics when we have been the fore runners against abortion.

The commandment is THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
 

One Baptism

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Notice:

ARK OF THE COVENANT HIJACKED!

The pope and 'Mary' in the place of God:
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HankD

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So, the image looks as if it is hovering above the OT Ark of the Covenant with the manna within.

Actually it is a ciborium with a "sanctified host" the Eucharist - the Body of Christ within - whithin which supposedly is the transubstantiation from bread.

ciborium:
a receptacle shaped like a shrine or a cup with an arched cover, used in the Christian Church for the reservation of the Eucharist.

I have never seen or noticed a ciborium like this.
Makes perfect sense in their (RCC) schema of things, the body of Christ being the "fruit" of her womb.

Also the "horns" over the altar are in the shape of a crescent moon (Rev 12:1).

Very interesting.

HankD
 

rsr

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Also the "horns" over the altar are in the shape of a crescent moon (Rev 12:1).

Very interesting.

HankD

The imagery is from Revelation and the iconography is attested in the 13th century.. The crescent-and-star symbol in Islam didn't really catch on until after the Ottomans conquered Byzantium in the 15th century, although it had been used previously in Islam and, more frequently, in Europe.

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" Rev. 12:1
 

One Baptism

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'Mary', is that 'angel of light', yes, that messenger, that 'aparition' of Romaninsm, who wants Christ's place as Mediator:

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Do notice the 12 gemstone breastplate, the crown [even with the horns of the Dragon], and the 7 branch shepherds rod in her hand.

She is an actual priest [sacerdote] according to Rome:

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“Marked by the priestly piety of the school of Bérulle, Pope Saint Pius X was singularly favourable to the invocation of Our Blessed Lady under the title of Virgo Sacerdos. Already in 1875, Blessed Pius IX had manifested his approval of the same title in a letter addressed to Msgr Oswald Van den Berghe, author of Marie et le Sacerdoce. Saint Pius X was pleased when an Italian translation of this work appeared.


When the Daughters of the Heart of Jesus, founded by Blessed Marie de Jésus Deluil-Martiny, asked for permission to invoke the Mother of God, in their chapels, as Maria Virgo Sacerdos, Saint Pius X wishing to extend the devotion to all the faithful, charged Cardinals Vanutelli and Vivès with composing a prayer that would make this Marian title better known. The prayer appeared, indulgenced by Pope Saint Pius X, on 9 May 1906.

O Mary, Mother of Mercy,
Mother and Daughter of Him who is the Father of mercies
and the God of all consolation (1),
Dispensatrix of all the treasures of thy Son (2),
Minister of God (3),
Mother of Christ, our High Priest,
thou who art both Offerer and Altar together, (4),
Immaculate Temple of the Word of God (5),
Teacher of the Apostles and Disciples of Christ (6),
protect the Supreme Pontiff,
intercede for us and for our priests,
that Jesus Christ the Eternal High Priest
may purify our consciences,
and that we may worthily, and with loving devotion,
approach His sacred banquet.
O Immaculate Virgin,
who not only hast given us Christ the heavenly bread
for the forgiveness of sins (7),
but who art thyself a most acceptable sacrifice offered unto God” (8),
and the glory of priests (9),
and who, as thy most blessed servant Saint Antoninius declares,
“without receiving the Sacrament of Order,
wert full of whatsoever in dignity and grace is given by it”,
thou art therefore rightly acclaimed as “Sacerdotal Virgin” (10).
Look upon us and upon the priests of thy Son,
save us, purify us, and sanctify us,
that we may receive the ineffable treasures of the Sacraments
in a holy manner
and so deserve to obtain
the eternal salvation of our souls. Amen.
Mother of Mercy, pray for us.
Mother of Jesus Christ, the Eternal Priest, pray for us.
Queen of the Clergy, pray for us.
Mary, Sacerdotal Virgin, pray for us.
[1] Richard of Saint Laurence
[2] Saint Bernardine
[3] Saint Bernard of Busto
[4] Saint Epiphanius
[5] Abbot Ludovicus Blosius
[6] Saint Thomas of Villanova.
[7] Saint Epiphanius
[8] Saint Andrew of Crete
[9] Saint Ephrem
[10] Letter of Blessed Pope Pius IX, 25 August 1873
We grant 300 day of indulgence to one who recites this prayer with piety and devotion.
9 May 1906.
Pius P. P. X.” - Prayer to Mary, the Sacerdotal Virgin | Vultus Christi



“The gesture with which Christ confided his disciple to his Mother and his Mother to the disciple (16) has defined an extremely close relationship between Mary and the Church. It is the will of the Lord that a Marian note mark the physiognomy of the Church, her road, her pastoral activity; and into the spiritual life of each disciple a "Marian dimension" is infused (17).” …

… Every priest knows that Mary, because she is a mother, is the eminent formator of the priesthood, since she is the one who knows how to shape the priestly heart; the Virgin, therefore, knows and wants to protect priests from dangers, exhaustion, and discouragement: with motherly solicitude she watches over the priest so that he may grow in wisdom, age, and grace before God and before men (34). …

...Finally, Mary is the "offering Virgin." The Church has perceived in the heart of the Virgin who carried the Child to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord, a willing oblation that transcended the ordinary meaning of the rite (51). "You offer your Son, Holy Virgin, and you present to the Lord the blessed fruit of your womb. You offer the holy victim, pleasing to God, for the reconciliation of us all" (St Bernard). ...

...This union of the Mother with the Son in the work of redemption reaches its culmination at Calvary, where Christ "offered himself, immaculate, to God" (52) and where Mary was beside the cross (53) suffering deeply with her Only Son and associating herself with motherly courage to his sacrifice, adhering lovingly to the immolation of the Victim engendered by her and offering herself as well to the Eternal Father. To perpetuate throughout the centuries the Sacrifice of the Cross, the Savior instituted the Eucharistic Sacrifice, memorial of his death and resurrection, and he confided it to his Spouse, the Church... who accomplishes it in union with the Saints in Heaven and, in the first place, with the blessed Virgin, whose ardent charity and unshakable faith she imitates (54).

Therefore the Church, with this same oblationary fervor and spirit lived by Mary, continually exhorts the priest to prepare himself and celebrate the Eucharist, center and summit of his interior life and apostolate. May his priestly hands elevate the consecrated bread and wine, Body and Blood of the Lord, just as Mary offered him as a child in the Temple, and having consummated the redemption at the foot of the cross, may he return it to the Father as an expiatory offering for our sins. ...

...Priestly formation, finally, has an active dimension oriented to pastoral action. The figure of Mary, her operative presence in the life of the Church, is recognized as the soul of every apostolic or pastoral work. Her spirit of service inspires the priestly ministry as an expression of love and as a response to a received gift. The pastoral challenges of our times demand action inspired by Mary's life.” [Conference of Mons. Norberto Rivera, Archbishop, Primate of Mexico; THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY IN THE LIFE AND MINISTRY OF THE PRIEST] - THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY IN THE LIFE AND MINISTRY OF THE PRIEST
 

HankD

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Amazing the path the Church of Rome has made with Marian dogma!

How did this happen?

HankD (former catholic)
 

One Baptism

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Amazing the path the Church of Rome has made with Marian dogma!

How did this happen?

HankD (former catholic)
Turning from the great high priest in Heaven, unto a being on earth:

Here is the highpriest on earth (Revelation 12:9-13 KJB) who wears the 12 gemmed breastplate, the Rationale of Judgment ...a continuing line of highpriests... who all eventually must be replaced...

"And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:" Hebrews 7:23:

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[For more Pictures see:]

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"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." [Matthew 6:24]

"Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession." [Hebrews 4:14]

"For such an high priest became us, [who is] holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;" [Hebrews 7:26]

"Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself." [Hebrews 7:27]

"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come." [Hebrews 13:14]

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." [Revelation 11:19]

"If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?" [John 3:12]

A counterfeit of the sanctuary in Heaven, and of the true High priest there. Romanism, even claims to be able to bring Christ Jesus down from Heaven, and be placed into the hands of men, even to carry him around in a little black bag -

 

One Baptism

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Now, please notice the 7 Golden Candlesticks, on earth, where the 'pope' is sitting in front of, and ministering before and where they are located. Just as there was the 7 Golden Branch Candlestick [representing CHRIST JESUS the Light of the World] in the Holy Place of the True Sanctuary, in Heaven:

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Another High priest on earth, and lesser priests, all ministering before an Altar on earth, with earthly incense, and earthly golden censors ...

In the days of the Dark Ages, Romanism, took away the "daily" of Christ Jesus ministry in the Heavens, in the Holy Place, and substituted it for a human work on earth ... they directed the minds and hearts of men, not into Heaven by faith to where Christ is, but rather they lowered the eyes, heart, mind unto the earth, where the Dragon and his worship is, and to a system of man in the place of God ...

For more see - 3 Angels And Anti-Christ

According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it]. Exodus 25:9

And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount. Exodus 25:40

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. Hebrews 8:5

The Heavenly Ministry of Christ Jesus, look into Revelation, see Him walking among the 7 Golden Candlesticks [Revelation 1:12,13,20, 2:1] [a door is open; Revelation 3:8, 4:1]... but He moves from the Holy Place after a period of time has passed, and now He is no longer in the Holy Place...

A system on earth, counterfeiting that which is taking place in Heaven ...
 

Martin Marprelate

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666 - the scriptural [KJB] Truth.
1 Kings 10:14. The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was 666 talents of gold.....'
1 Timothy 6:10. 'For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.'

:Cool

 

One Baptism

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1 Kings 10:14. The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was 666 talents of gold.....'
1 Timothy 6:10. 'For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.'

:Cool
Excellent connection, and when we see that "money" is selfishness ... for the love of it is the root of all [including Lucifer's fall] evil, for is not the borrower the servant of the lender? Do not all creatures borrow life from God? Contextually, money ... one cannot serve both God and mammon at the same time ...
 

utilyan

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Excellent connection, and when we see that "money" is selfishness ... for the love of it is the root of all [including Lucifer's fall] evil, for is not the borrower the servant of the lender? Do not all creatures borrow life from God? Contextually, money ... one cannot serve both God and mammon at the same time ...

$$$SDA HOSPITALS$$$

Hey if we join your church can we murder children with abortion too?


Well here is video of one who finally realized they have a problem:

 

One Baptism

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Of course, there is far more to the Roman counterfeit system, which is the system of the serpent, the Dragon, who was cast down, even to the earth. Let's see some more outward manifestations of the serpent-Dragon, of Romanism, before we get into the darkest recesses of the heart of the counterfeit. All the sins of Babylon will be laid open before all, flee from her, lest ye receive of her plagues ...

Rome is the very Head of the Serpent worship, and it will be crushed completely, shortly [Romans 16:20 KJB, "bruised"]:

Paul VI, Nervi building, is next to the Vatican, and is in the shape of a Head of a Serpent:

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An aerial view:

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An aerial side view, notice the curvature and appearance of 'scales':
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Here is now an interal shot:
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Now, look at facing forward, where the 'pope' sits, even at the Mouth of the Serpents Head:
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Notice the eyes, the fangs, even the appearance of the tongue, and the 'pope' sits right in the mouth:
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The Serpent of Loyola, who appeared to him in a glorious light, with many eyes, declaring unto him the knowledge of good and evil; the Jesuit:
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As the devil spoke through a serpent in the beginning, in Eden, to capture man, so now at the end, the devil speaks through the mouth of a man, in the Serpents Head.
 
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I don't know what to say — except that some folks spend way too much time looking for what they want to find.
 

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I don't know what to say — except that some folks spend way too much time looking for what they want to find.

I visited one Christian site and they had a Conspiracy Forum... Not that the BB needs to start one but if they did, it would give us fair warning what we need to stay away from... WATCH OUT... There's a boggie man under the bed:eek:... Brother Glen:D
 
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utilyan

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Now, please notice the 7 Golden Candlesticks, on earth, where the 'pope' is sitting in front of, and ministering before and where they are located. Just as there was the 7 Golden Branch Candlestick [representing CHRIST JESUS the Light of the World] in the Holy Place of the True Sanctuary, in Heaven:

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Another High priest on earth, and lesser priests, all ministering before an Altar on earth, with earthly incense, and earthly golden censors ...

In the days of the Dark Ages, Romanism, took away the "daily" of Christ Jesus ministry in the Heavens, in the Holy Place, and substituted it for a human work on earth ... they directed the minds and hearts of men, not into Heaven by faith to where Christ is, but rather they lowered the eyes, heart, mind unto the earth, where the Dragon and his worship is, and to a system of man in the place of God ...

For more see - 3 Angels And Anti-Christ

According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it]. Exodus 25:9

And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount. Exodus 25:40

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. Hebrews 8:5

The Heavenly Ministry of Christ Jesus, look into Revelation, see Him walking among the 7 Golden Candlesticks [Revelation 1:12,13,20, 2:1] [a door is open; Revelation 3:8, 4:1]... but He moves from the Holy Place after a period of time has passed, and now He is no longer in the Holy Place...

A system on earth, counterfeiting that which is taking place in Heaven ...

I think its comical that the use of incense is "mark" of evil.

Malachi 1

11“For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name will be great among the nations,” says the LORD of hosts.


One of the "marks" Jesus said of his own church is being "marked" as diabolical.

Mathew 10

24“A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. 25“It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household!


I heard thousands of people say the Catholic church is evil, diabolical even the whore of babylon. It has been MALIGN just as bad as they called Jesus Beelzebul.

I never heard anyone say anything bad about SDA. We Catholics think your our cute paranoid brothers and sisters.
 
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