9 in 10 Covid Deaths in Vaxxed

[Aaron]

9 in 10 COVID Deaths Are in Vaccinated People: Report

A report released by the UK government has confirmed that 9 out of every 10 deaths related to COVID-19 are found in those who are fully vaccinated. Although the virus variant is the same and the UK approved only one different vaccine (AstraZeneca) from the United States, the data in the U.S. are different. This may be due in large part to the CDC definition used to identify who is “vaccinated.”

U.S. data are also likely to become even more sparse in the coming weeks and months. In addition to the CDC hiding data, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) quietly decided in early February to stop recording deaths attributed to COVID-19.​

 

[SavedByGrace]

I wonder about Covid being as deadly as it is made out to be. I am sure there are cases where it is very serious, but the greater majority, probably 98%, are mild.

I have several friends who have "Covid", as per Chinese testing kits, which probably are made for flu! They only take paracetamol, and isolate for 5 days in their rooms, and after this time, with no further medication, they are CURED! IF Covid is more serious than flu, for which we often take cough/chest relief products, and stronger painkillers, then why is Covid not treated by much stronger midication?

 

[Baptist Believer]

It's always amazing to see how Epoch Times and other conspiracy sites distort things. I read the actual report and it demonstrates how well the vaccines work and how the death rate is MUCH higher among those unvaccinated.

But hey, reality is not for everyone.

 

[Reynolds]

9 in 10 COVID Deaths Are in Vaccinated People: Report

A report released by the UK government has confirmed that 9 out of every 10 deaths related to COVID-19 are found in those who are fully vaccinated. Although the virus variant is the same and the UK approved only one different vaccine (AstraZeneca) from the United States, the data in the U.S. are different. This may be due in large part to the CDC definition used to identify who is “vaccinated.”

U.S. data are also likely to become even more sparse in the coming weeks and months. In addition to the CDC hiding data, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) quietly decided in early February to stop recording deaths attributed to COVID-19.​

Are you daring challenge the sticky info of @JonC ?

 

[Aaron]

It's always amazing to see how Epoch Times and other conspiracy sites distort things. I read the actual report and it demonstrates how well the vaccines work and how the death rate is MUCH higher among those unvaccinated.

But hey, reality is not for everyone.

You must not have read the article or looked at the tables.

The Exposé, demonstrated step by step how the data, gathered from Jan. 24, 2022, through February 28, 2022, supported this assertion. In the UK, health authorities differentiate between those who have never received a shot and those who received one, two or three doses. All told, there were 1,086,434 cases of COVID in vaccinated individuals that accounted for 73 percent of all cases during that period.

When children were removed from the equation, vaccinated individuals accounted for 91 percent of all cases. The reporter also compared data taken in 2021 when Delta was the dominant variant against the current report when Omicron is the dominant variant in England. It showed a higher number of children hospitalized for Omicron than for Delta.

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When children were included in the figures for hospitalization, the data showed 75 percent of those hospitalized with COVID in the current period were vaccinated. But, when children were removed from the equation, 85 percent of the hospitalized individuals were vaccinated. Similar results were found when the data were analyzed for COVID deaths.

During the four-week period in the current report, vaccinated individuals accounted for 89 percent of deaths. Most interestingly, not only are the deaths in vaccinated individuals rising precipitously, but the number of deaths in those who are not vaccinated is dropping.​

 

[Aaron]

Are you daring challenge the sticky info of @JonC ?

Reality is a challenge to @JonC .

 

[Reformed1689]

demonstrates how well the vaccines work

LOL The vaccine you have to keep getting time and time again yet still get and transmit Covid? Oh yeah, they work soooooooo well!

 

[Reformed1689]

 

[Baptist Believer]

You must not have read the article or looked at the tables.

No, I read the whole thing and examined the tables. The report says something quite different than the Epoch Times piece.

 

[Reformed1689]

No, I read the whole thing and examined the tables. The report says something quite different than the Epoch Times piece.

The piece says 9 in 10 deaths are with people who are vaccinated. I looked at the report, and posted a table from the report. That statement is 100% accurate.

 

[Baptist Believer]

The piece says 9 in 10 deaths are with people who are vaccinated. I looked at the report, and posted a table from the report. That statement is 100% accurate.

Look at that table again. Did you notice the last two columns? They show the death rate per 100,000 persons. The death rate for unvaccinated persons is from 4-10x higher than unvaccinated persons, depending upon age.

 

[Reformed1689]

Look at that table again. Did you notice the last two columns? They show the death rate per 100,000 persons. The death rate for unvaccinated persons is from 4-10x higher than unvaccinated persons, depending upon age.

That's not the point though is it? No, the point is that 9 out of 10 deaths are with people who are vaccinated. CLEARLY the vaccines aren't as effective as you and others try to portray. It certainly does not keep you from getting the virus or from death. It is ridiculous. They are worthless.

 

[Baptist Believer]

CLEARLY the vaccines aren't as effective as you and others try to portray. It certainly does not keep you from getting the virus or from death. It is ridiculous. They are worthless.

What you are essentially saying is that armor is useless because it is not impenetrable. That any protection that is not 100% is "worthless." That's some weird reasoning.

Moreover, vaccines activate the body's existing immune system. If someone's immune system is compromised, they will not be as effective. How have we been in this pandemic for TWO YEARS without you understanding that?

 

[Reformed1689]

What you are essentially saying is that armor is useless because it is not impenetrable. That any protection that is not 100% is "worthless." That's some weird reasoning.

Moreover, vaccines activate the body's existing immune system. If someone's immune system is compromised, they will not be as effective. How have we been in this pandemic for TWO YEARS without you understanding that?

Then what is the point of the vaccine? It is pointless. Get it if you want. But don't require it in any way and don't tout 95% effectiveness when you have to get a new shot every three months. It's stupidity. You drank the kool aid, I will not.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Then what is the point of the vaccine?

The point of the vaccine is to prepare one’s immune system to encounter the virus. The problem with COVID is that — because it is a novel (new to humans) virus — our immune systems do not have any known experience with it and it can overwhelm our bodies to the point of severe damage and death before our bodies can mount a full resistance.

The vaccine prepares the immune system by preparing some antibodies before exposure in the wild, helping our bodies fight off COVID-19 before it becomes too serious.

if one has a weakened immune system due to preexisting health issues or age, then the vaccine will be less effective at preventing the viral load from getting to the point where one becomes ill. However, it will usually give those suffering from COVID-19 the ability to avoid having to go to the hospital or dying.

For example, my wife and I are fully vaccinated. In mid-January, we were exposed to COVID when we had to travel to Houston for me to perform my uncle’s funeral. I became ill a few days after exposure, with my viral load only getting high enough to measure in an at home test the day after the fever and body aches began. My wife felt run down for a few days, but never had a fever, nor tested positive. Her body fought it off because of the vaccine.

Because of my previous medical issues (17-20 years of high steroid levels because of Cushing’s Disease), the vaccine was less effective for me, but I was able to recover in three weeks. I was extremely I’ll for the first three days, and then it tapered off as my body was able to fully mount a defense. Without the vaccine, I would almost certainly be a fatality.

It is pointless.

Nope, not at all. The data on the chart you cited demonstrates that it is not. Don’t you believe the evidence you cited?

But don't require it in any way and don't tout 95% effectiveness…

Except the data shows it is highly effective.

[/quote]…when you have to get a new shot every three months.[/quote]
This does not follow logically. I realize that we all want a “one and done” regimen for all time, but that’s not how life works. You might as well complain that food or water is “not effective” because we require food and drink from time to time. Or that exercise is not effective because we have to make it part of a lifestyle.

It's stupidity.

Actually, the position that you are repeating is based on ignorance and the hope that it won’t be logically considered. I know you are not the origin of the viewpoint you presented because you are smarter than that. However, you have let your mind become captive to misinformation.

You drank the kool aid, I will not.

You have been deceived. I am discouraged by your last statement — a statement of refusal to reconsider — since it shows that you are closed to new information that does not support your current beliefs. It is self-deception.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

What you are essentially saying is that armor is useless because it is not impenetrable. That any protection that is not 100% is "worthless." That's some weird reasoning.

Moreover, vaccines activate the body's existing immune system. If someone's immune system is compromised, they will not be as effective. How have we been in this pandemic for TWO YEARS without you understanding that?

Very few handgun rounds will penetrate the standard vests worn by most LEOs. My .30-06 deer rifle fires a bullet traveling at nearly 2,500 feet per second and which will easily pass thru that standard vest, as will the majority of centerfire rifle rounds. By some of the reasoning in this thread, those vests are worthless.

 

[Reformed1689]

Very few handgun rounds will penetrate the standard vests worn by most LEOs. My .30-06 deer rifle fires a bullet traveling at nearly 2,500 feet per second and which will easily pass thru that standard vest, as will the majority of centerfire rifle rounds. By some of the reasoning in this thread, those vests are worthless.

Hardly an equivalent comparison.

 

[777]

No, the analogy is sort of weak - now if you passed some law requiring Chicago school children to wear a vest at all times, then put another vest on after a few months, never take them off even though there's a 98% chance the bullet(s) aren't fatal, then there you go.