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A Bible verse on which I would like some guidance

Silverhair

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A church member I know said that he had overcome his sin - I pointed him to the verse above, and he said it applied to non-believers only. Is he right?


A close friend and his wife have told me many times that they can not sin because when Christ said "it is finished" that means that all the believers in the future had their sins paid for so what ever they did it could not be a sin. When I pointed out scripture he said it did not apply to them. I asked him about the problem of his pride and he told me it was not pride because pride was a sin and he could not sin.
 

AustinC

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A close friend and his wife have told me many times that they can not sin because when Christ said "it is finished" that means that all the believers in the future had their sins paid for so what ever they did it could not be a sin. When I pointed out scripture he said it did not apply to them. I asked him about the problem of his pride and he told me it was not pride because pride was a sin and he could not sin.
This is an abusive concept of grace that declares God's grace is greater than our sin. This is true, but these folks forget Paul's statement "Shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? May God forbid!" (Romans 6)

The pastor whom God used to save my dad fell into this heresy. He used this abusive grace to excuse his sexual trists with women in the church. He swore in his sermons saying God's grace covered any and all sin he may do. The outcome for this pastor is that he died when his house caught fire and he could not escape the flames. You make your own conclusion.

Your friend is abusing grace as a means of feeding their carnal pleasures and searing their heart from the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They have created a loophole to excuse their sin. That is not grace. That is Pharisaic legal loophole theology.
 

Silverhair

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This is an abusive concept of grace that declares God's grace is greater than our sin. This is true, but these folks forget Paul's statement "Shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? May God forbid!" (Romans 6)

The pastor whom God used to save my dad fell into this heresy. He used this abusive grace to excuse his sexual trists with women in the church. He swore in his sermons saying God's grace covered any and all sin he may do. The outcome for this pastor is that he died when his house caught fire and he could not escape the flames. You make your own conclusion.

Your friend is abusing grace as a means of feeding their carnal pleasures and searing their heart from the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They have created a loophole to excuse their sin. That is not grace. That is Pharisaic legal loophole theology.


They did not want conviction they wanted justification. Is is sad but there are a great many "Christians" that fit into the same mold.
We can only point out the truth, we can't make them believe it.
 
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