A bit more about "parousia"

[Squire Robertsson]

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[agedman]

Rather than reply to this I suggest you just reread what I wrote to John. My reply is the same.

The expression of no hope.

What hope of a future is found in that already accomplished as past?

If Christ came in the time conformed to preterist views, the at least Apostles Philip and John missed the occasion

Philip died approx 80 AD. Tomb of St. Philip the Apostle Discovered in Turkey

John died approx 98 AD.

Preterist have nothing valid to offer, because from the beginning it was a lie formed by the Jesuit demonic design three centuries ago and supported by the RCC in some attempt to discredit and counter the reformation. It is a Roman Papist thinking based solely upon nothing of Scriptures, but relies upon deception and visions.

Here is a denial of the origin (really ignorant considering the overwhelming documentation to the contrary) and yet it shows how it is not based on Scripture but “private revelations.”

Although this is not Catholic doctrine, arising as it does from private revelation, it conforms to what is occurring in our time, especially in light of Our Lady of Fátima's promise of an "Era of Peace." This "Triumph of the Immaculate Heart" (other saints have spoken of a social reign of Jesus Christ when Jesus will reign in the hearts of men) would seem to occur prior to the rise of the Antichrist. The optimism of the Pope for the "New Evangelization" and a "Civilization of Love" in the Third Millenium of Christianity fits here, as well. This would place us, therefore, in the period just before the events spoken of in the Catechism, that is, on the verge of the evangelization of the entire world. Other interpretations are possible, but none seem to fit the facts as well, especially when approved mystics are studied, instead of merely alleged ones. (http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=360178)​

Who are the “approved mystics?”

Preterism was formed as a lie from the beginning, and has no true basis in Scripture.

That Baptist would actually see it as presenting truth is but the power of both satanic deception and self delusion.

 

[asterisktom]

The expression of no hope.

What hope of a future is found in that already accomplished as past?

If Christ came in the time conformed to preterist views, the at least Apostles Philip and John missed the occasion

Philip died approx 80 AD. Tomb of St. Philip the Apostle Discovered in Turkey

John died approx 98 AD.

Preterist have nothing valid to offer, because from the beginning it was a lie formed by the Jesuit demonic design three centuries ago and supported by the RCC in some attempt to discredit and counter the reformation. It is a Roman Papist thinking based solely upon nothing of Scriptures, but relies upon deception and visions.

Here is a denial of the origin (really ignorant considering the overwhelming documentation to the contrary) and yet it shows how it is not based on Scripture but “private revelations.”

Although this is not Catholic doctrine, arising as it does from private revelation, it conforms to what is occurring in our time, especially in light of Our Lady of Fátima's promise of an "Era of Peace." This "Triumph of the Immaculate Heart" (other saints have spoken of a social reign of Jesus Christ when Jesus will reign in the hearts of men) would seem to occur prior to the rise of the Antichrist. The optimism of the Pope for the "New Evangelization" and a "Civilization of Love" in the Third Millenium of Christianity fits here, as well. This would place us, therefore, in the period just before the events spoken of in the Catechism, that is, on the verge of the evangelization of the entire world. Other interpretations are possible, but none seem to fit the facts as well, especially when approved mystics are studied, instead of merely alleged ones. (http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=360178)​

Who are the “approved mystics?”

Preterism was formed as a lie from the beginning, and has no true basis in Scripture.

That Baptist would actually see it as presenting truth is but the power of both satanic deception and self delusion.

You are so far off base that I see no way of meaningful discussion here. I gave scripture, both here and in the "Open and Shut" thread. There has been no Scriptural response from you - only the weird charge that my position is "based solely upon nothing of Scriptures".

Back to ignoring you. I had hoped better from you.

 

[agedman]

You are so far off base that I see no way of meaningful discussion here. I gave scripture, both here and in the "Open and Shut" thread. There has been no Scriptural response from you - only the weird charge that my position is "based solely upon nothing of Scriptures".

Back to ignoring you. I had hoped better from you.

Hey, that is fine.

If you don’t even believe the RCC web conversation board, who am I to stand in your way.

You can agree with Jesuit Luis de Alcasar who through deceitfulness created the scheme as a way to prevent the truth.

That alone should cause any true follower of Scripture to flee from that whole teaching as a lie.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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