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A Call to Biblical Truth

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Protestant

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Campion said:
Who decides what is or is not heresy? Rome? Athens? London? Geneva? Kirkwood? Nashville?

Who decides whether a Catholic can be saved? Last I checked I thought God is the judge. Do we not teach that anymore?

Also, there are lots of good arguments against Catholicism. The stuff posted above is not even close and doesn't help the cause. It's Jack Chick-type stuff.
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Campion asks, "Who decides whether a Catholic can be saved? Last I checked I thought God is the judge. Do we not teach that anymore?"

The identities of Christ's true sheep are made known by their fruit. True sheep prove their love for their Master by obeying His commandments. I have cited numerous commandments which Roman Catholic zealots break on a continuous basis, proving they are goats, not sheep.

Servant keeps spouting his infallible opinions without addressing ONE Scripture out of the many I have cited which declares continual disobedience to Christ's commandments proves the alleged 'born-again Christian' is a LIAR and a DEVIL:

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

John's teaching in these passages do not require a Master degree in Theology to discern, but it does require a dose of the Holy Ghost.
 
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Campion

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Protestant said:
Sadly, Campion has finally immerged from hiding only to reveal his shameful ignorance. His inability to refute the many historical Latin manuscripts which numerous recognized, highly reputed secular scholars have themselves translated has resulted in the typical default insult made by religious fanatical Catholics: ‘Baptist Jack Chick is a kook, and so are you.’

I cite Wakefield & Evans’ publication because it is exceptional due to its scope.

Other works which I recommend are:

The Antifraternal Tradition in Medieval Literature by Szittya

The Birth of Popular Heresy by Moore

Dissent & Reform in the Early Middle Ages by Russell

Medieval Heresy by Lambert

Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe edited by Peters

Heresy in the Later Middle Ages by Leff

This is not to mention the almost innumerable works by scholars concerning the Lollards and their alleged ‘heresies.’

There are three classic Protestant works which detail the fraudulent narratives propagated by the Roman Church by which they falsely accused the ancient Vallenses [Waldenses] and Albigenses of heresy:

The History of the Ancient Vallenses and Albigenses by George Stanley Faber

The Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of Piedmont and of the Albigenses by Peter Allix

Horae Apocalypticae by E. B. Elliott (5th Edition, volume 2).

Truly, after taking the time and effort to study the Middle Ages, always keeping Scripture foremost in one’s mind, it becomes quite apparent the book of Revelation has been playing out historically in real time. The true identities of Mystery Babylon and her Antichrist are no longer a ‘mystery.’ This is why the ancient Christians, Protestant Reformers, Puritans and Calvinists ALL recognized the same enemy depicted in the prophetic Scriptures. Many were put to the death because of their prophetic beliefs which they broadcast from the rooftops. Kooks? I think not.
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Emerging from my hiding? Where have I been hiding?

Perhaps I have been busy reincarnating into some historical figure you accused me of last time!

Seriously, this stuff is hilarious. If only you had illustrations, you could be the new Jack Chick! Or we could use your creativity over at Lutheran Satire!

 
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Campion

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Protestant said:
Campion asks, "Who decides whether a Catholic can be saved? Last I checked I thought God is the judge. Do we not teach that anymore?"

The identities of Christ's true sheep are made known by their fruit. True sheep prove their love for their Master by obeying His commandments. I have cited numerous commandments which Roman Catholic zealots break on a continuous basis, proving they are goats, not sheep.

Servant keeps spouting his infallible opinions without addressing ONE Scripture out of the many I have cited which declares continual disobedience to Christ's commandments proves the alleged 'born-again Christian' is a LIAR and a DEVIL:

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

John's teaching in these passages do not require a Master degree in Theology to discern, but it does require a dose of the Holy Ghost.
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Keeping the commandments? I thought commandment keeping is Catholic / Orthodox?

What happened to faith alone?

Just what are you selling here???
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
Who decides what is or is not heresy? Rome? Athens? London? Geneva? Kirkwood? Nashville?

Who decides whether a Catholic can be saved? Last I checked I thought God is the judge. Do we not teach that anymore?

Also, there are lots of good arguments against Catholicism. The stuff posted above is not even close and doesn't help the cause. It's Jack Chick-type stuff.
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Rome teaches another Gospel, one of sacramentalism, but know Catholics can and still do get saved, as My senior pastor and many members of the church were former Catholics!
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
Who decides what is or is not heresy? Rome? Athens? London? Geneva? Kirkwood? Nashville?

Who decides whether a Catholic can be saved? Last I checked I thought God is the judge. Do we not teach that anymore?

Also, there are lots of good arguments against Catholicism. The stuff posted above is not even close and doesn't help the cause. It's Jack Chick-type stuff.
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Both Dr MacArthur and John Ackerburg have written and videos great reasons why Rome teaches another and false gospel
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
Keeping the commandments? I thought commandment keeping is Catholic / Orthodox?

What happened to faith alone?

Just want are you selling here???
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Some here seem to have forgotten the saved by grace alone received thru faith alone, eh?
 
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JesusFan

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Protestant said:
Sadly, Campion has finally immerged from hiding only to reveal his shameful ignorance. His inability to refute the many historical Latin manuscripts which numerous recognized, highly reputed secular scholars have themselves translated has resulted in the typical default insult made by religious fanatical Catholics: ‘Baptist Jack Chick is a kook, and so are you.’

I cite Wakefield & Evans’ publication because it is exceptional due to its scope.

Other works which I recommend are:

The Antifraternal Tradition in Medieval Literature by Szittya

The Birth of Popular Heresy by Moore

Dissent & Reform in the Early Middle Ages by Russell

Medieval Heresy by Lambert

Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe edited by Peters

Heresy in the Later Middle Ages by Leff

This is not to mention the almost innumerable works by scholars concerning the Lollards and their alleged ‘heresies.’

There are three classic Protestant works which detail the fraudulent narratives propagated by the Roman Church by which they falsely accused the ancient Vallenses [Waldenses] and Albigenses of heresy:

The History of the Ancient Vallenses and Albigenses by George Stanley Faber

The Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of Piedmont and of the Albigenses by Peter Allix

Horae Apocalypticae by E. B. Elliott (5th Edition, volume 2).

Truly, after taking the time and effort to study the Middle Ages, always keeping Scripture foremost in one’s mind, it becomes quite apparent the book of Revelation has been playing out historically in real time. The true identities of Mystery Babylon and her Antichrist are no longer a ‘mystery.’ This is why the ancient Christians, Protestant Reformers, Puritans and Calvinists ALL recognized the same enemy depicted in the prophetic Scriptures. Many were put to the death because of their prophetic beliefs which they broadcast from the rooftops. Kooks? I think not.
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The papacy is not the Antichrist!
 
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Campion

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Servant of Lord Jesus said:
The One that supports Pauline Justification!
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As N.T. Wright articulates?

"Paul, in company with mainstream second-Temple Judaism, affirms that God’s final judgment will be in accordance with the entirety of a life led — in accordance, in other words, with works.” N.T. Wright, Pauline Perspectives: Essays on Paul, 1978–2013, 281
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
As N.T. Wright articulates?

"Paul, in company with mainstream second-Temple Judaism, affirms that God’s final judgment will be in accordance with the entirety of a life led — in accordance, in other words, with works.” N.T. Wright, Pauline Perspectives: Essays on Paul, 1978–2013, 281
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He denies the Reformation view regarding Pauline Justification, denies Psa!
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
As N.T. Wright articulates?

"Paul, in company with mainstream second-Temple Judaism, affirms that God’s final judgment will be in accordance with the entirety of a life led — in accordance, in other words, with works.” N.T. Wright, Pauline Perspectives: Essays on Paul, 1978–2013, 281
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That sounds more like the heretical Investigative Judgement of the SDA!
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
What are you calling Pauline Justification?
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Justification

"Justification is the doctrine that God pardons, accepts, and declares a sinner to be "just" on the basis of Christ's righteousness (Rom 3:24-26; 4:25; 5:15-21) which results in God's peace (Rom 5:1), His Spirit (Rom 8:4), and salvation. Justification is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ apart from all works and merit of the sinner (cf. Rom 1:18-3:28)."

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Campion

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Servant of Lord Jesus said:
He denies the Reformation view regarding Pauline Justification, denies Psa!
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He's Protestant and does not deny the Reformation. He denies the forensic justification, which another Protestant scholar admitted was a "theological novum", something completely invented out of thin air.

Righteousness can only be properly understood in the context of relationship. Thus Pauline Justification which divorces this is not historical.
 
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JesusFan

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Campion said:
It's Pauline Justification according to Wright. Back to my original question to you. Who gets to decide? Wright, MacArthur, Rome or you?
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NT Wright has formally rejected reformed View on the Cross and atonement so denies Psa and Pauline Justification!
 
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