Featured A Caution For Every Christian That Drinks Alcohol

You gotta be kidding me......a person who knows his limit & keeps to it is safe. And if the guy witnessing is aware of his or her surroundings, knows his limit, is serious about keeping himself sober while discussing Christ & His Message is going to be fine. now if your goal is to get drunk, that's another story altogether.

 

My friend, I have seen it!
Now if you read my previous post on this thread, I said that we need to be careful, and that is all that I'm saying, but, 'Let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.'

'Wine is a mocker' (Proverbs 20:1). we need to beware lest it mock us.

 

Money is the root of all evil. The key isn't to avoid wine and money, but to not let ourselves become servants to them.

 

Steve, Ive brought people to Christ by witnessing in bars! Yea I know its probably audacious but people do listen. It is my fervent belief that you have to be there with the sinner.....especially when they are acting out & perhaps in a low mood, wanting to make changes to their lives (God Changes). I don't think we can ignore those opportunities....see we are showing them that God is there for them, even in a bar.

Notice I didn't say a strip joint......that's not showing a Christ Like life.

BTW, depending on the time spent in the bar or pub, I limit my intake to one......ahhhh, maybe two beers (Lagers). And I drink them because they are inert & I like the taste.... (and I always eat something with it)

 

Cause I went to BJU for 2 years and have been in various IFB churches since 2007 ranging from SC TO Colorado.

 

I am generalizing.

 

If you hit the point where you've lost self-awareness, you've already gone too far.

If you have purposed not to get drunk and you limit yourself to one serving, then how are you going to lose self-awareness?

 

I've met plenty of addicts who have never consumed alcohol. The problem is addictive behavior, not the substance/activity to which one is addicted.

 

Obviously. I wasn't trying to parrot Sunday School answers where I have to constantly point out that humankind is fallen and sinful instead of trying to make a better point.

Yes, but this is too simplistic and shallow of a view of sin. You jumped on my use of the phrase "addictive behavior", apparently loading into it a number of things I did not say and missing the point entirely.

Sin is not only specific and discrete behavior, but it also includes patterns of behavior, additions, and corruption of the systems of the body - sometimes caused by a fallen world and sometimes by previous behavior. Our life experience and choices form our character, for good or ill. Transformation in Christ is a transformation of character which leads to a transformation of behavior.

Addictive behavior and addictive personalities are all part of what scripture calls sin. We are responsible for both our specific behavior and our character.

I wasn't advocating that at all.

 

Galatians 5:16-21 comes to mind. Addiction is an issue of formed character. That's not to say that persons who have certain weaknesses are unredeemed, but they have not yet be properly formed in Christ.

Paul contrasts the character/lifestyle of a person captive to the flesh (the most severe form is addiction) and the person led by the Spirit. Regarding those who have an unredeemed character:

Galatians 5:16-21
Live by the Spirit, I say, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. For what the flesh desires is opposed to the Spirit, and what the Spirit desires is opposed to the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to prevent you from doing what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not subject to the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.​

 

How is a limit determined, if not "any influence from alcohol"?

 

Past experience of course. And what do you mean by your ending question?

 

Never met a dry drunk? It's quite an experience.