A Chart

What "good quality" are we talking about? That she visits orphans, helps feed people? She makes these things, which would be blessings in themselves (in a limited way), into curses. She gives them what many of them think is Christian charity - and then neglects to tell them about Christ. She, by teaching and example, seeks to convert them to universalism

Just like the Pharisees who traverse land and sea to make their convert, she makes many "twicefold the son of hell".

This life is just a dot - an invisible one - in comparison to eternity with or without Christ. All of Teresa's "phenomenal" works are done within that invisible dot. But the consequences are all outside of it.

How pathetic Christianity has become! that we have to hold her up, like Hybels did, as an example. Do we not have examples of our own?

Medical missions is valid if it springs out of Christian ministry, or if it is followed up with it. Teresa's medical mission work pointedly excludes the Gospel of Christ.

How people can allow the spirit of this effete, Christ-lite age to blind them to the unique and excellent message of Christ and to that one and only Gospel that was once delivered to the saints!

 

To call out the Heretics.

 

Some of the people on that chart are not brethren.

Some of the people on the chart are brethren, but the chart can help one be aware of people who sound good but have beliefs that may be outside of one's own, or practices that one cannot follow.

 

It's not even an issue, since the information on the chart is poor, subjective, and agendizing in the first place.

 

So I suppose in your inestimable wisdom it would have been better for her to neglect the needs of those people just because she wasn't a Baptist.

 

Their needs are salvation. What are you talking about?

Neglecting their needs is exactly what she was doing. My point exactly.

Do you even read what I wrote?

 

I'm signing off on this thread. Not worth it.

 

Nicy try, but patently false. Anyone who claims that the KJV is authoritatively superior to other versions is guilty of false doctrine hands down. That has nothing to do with the OP chart.

 

ON what planet is the Hyper Fundamentalism Group the largest group? I don't understand the bottom row of Sizing.

 

I was wondering the same thing.

 

Some data about SharperIron

Just a few quick facts and suggestions regarding SharperIron.

1. I'm the owner/editor of the site. The transfer occurred in May of 2008, not "earlier this year."
2. We had no way of knowing who reads SI before, but since we have a survey in progress for several weeks now, I can provide some actual facts
3. So far, about 21% of SI readers are 5 point Calvinists, 24% claim four points or less. About 41% specifically reject either the label or the ideas of "Calvinism." The rest are scattered among other categories in relation to Calvinism. Not surveyed, but about half of the moderators would claim the term "Calvinist" I think. My guess is that about 2/3 actually are Calvinist in soteriology.
4. We do close threads for a variety of reasons including overheated tone, matters getting too personal, someone with an axe to grind dominating the thread, wandering far off topic, making demands, etc. We do not claim to be super consistent in this, though we try. The lines are often blurry.
5. We do not close threads because we disagree with the ideas someone has posted in it (unless they are contrary to the doctrinal statement, and that's usually handled by dealing with the posting member or the individual post).
6. I almost never close threads personally.
7. Regarding "John of Japan's" case where "John of Japan's" says "this happened to me personally." It's available in the SI archive here: http://20.sharperiron.org/showthread.php?t=9895 Judge for yourselves what really happened there but be sure not to miss my post here. Note also that the thread was not closed by me nor was it in response to John in particular. As in this case, it almost always takes more than one to ruin a thread.

 

As I am sure you have seen around here, there are some who can wreck a multitude of threads all by their lonesome.

I, too, run a forum (a secular one on computer help). Threads are closed for a lot of different reasons. Most of the time an explanation is not offered as to why, even if the cause was not self-evident. Whether it is to keep the peace, stop a flame war, shut down a moron, or because of issues that thread relates to being something not wanted on the forum, a thread closure is normally for the good of not only the forum but of the posters themselves as well.

 

This is kind of a simplistic bifurcation, don't you think?

I have often joked to my students that there are two kinds of people in the world: Those who divide people into two kinds of people - and those who don't:laugh:

Charts can be really helpful and useful. This particular one seemed to misconstrue some categories and misassign some ministries IMO.

 

Discernment is not judging. And even judging falls into two categories (according to the NT): 1. careful consideration of teaching. 2. pronouncements on motives. The cahart - and charts in general - can be quite helpful in following Christ' commandments along these lines. We are never that #2 is right.

Yes, love is all-important. But the goal is for our love to grow into true knowledge and all discernment, Phil. 1:9. Love does not look closely into the sins of others, but it does examine very closely - out of love for the Truth - anything that is a hinderance to growth in Christ.

 

I just had to fix the several typos.