If you continue to call my words blasphemous, I will notify another moderator to give you an infraction. I have defended my position from the Bible, from the words of Jesus, and from the words of Paul. You have no argument.You do not want to admit error and repent. You stand by your blasphemous words. You said, “Leaven, no matter what is source, is symbolic of false doctrine, hypocrisy, malice and wickedness.”
No. He used leaven in a parable when speaking of the kingdom of heaven. There is a difference. In the parable "leaven is leaven."Jesus compared leaven to the kingdom of heaven!
The same principle is applicable to the woman who lost a coin and searched everywhere for it. The instrument (broom) that she used to sweep the floor: what in the parable did it represent? Perhaps the Holy Spirit? Something else maybe? No. It represented a broom, and nothing more.
As the broom represented a broom, so the leaven represented leaven.
You are trying to make leaven symbolize something it doesn't. You are trying to teach this "new doctrine" from a parable.People are so wicked. Tell me, what doctrine do you and Biblicist say I was trying to teach from a parable?
Who said anything about foxes. Where did that come from.You are not slick enough to be called a fox. Tell me, where have I erred in my approach to my understanding of the Bible?
This is what I said:
Parables are used to illustrate truth already taught. You err in your approach to your understanding of the Bible.
And that is the truth.
You have demonstrated it in your approach to your understanding of parables.
You have demonstrated it in your approach to "spiritual gifts," taking scripture like Romans 1:11 out of its context.
You demonstrate a general lack of understanding in the field of hermeneutics.
That statement demonstrates what I just said above.What senseless rambling.
That statement was a response from what I said here:
One doesn't take doctrine from the Bible, but rather realizes that the parable illustrates one truth that the parable is illustrating. In the parable you are referencing, leaven means leaven.
It is a principle that you don't understand yet.
Your arrogance is deafening.DHK, you spoke against the Word of God, and you do not want to admit error. What kind of spirit do you have? Instead of admitting error, you go on with nonsense against me.
It is hard for you to accept the teaching of the Word of God, not only in this subject but even in returning to the OP, as you should.
1 Corinthians 12:13 και γαρ εν ενι πνευματι ημεις παντες εις εν σωμα εβαπτισθημεν ειτε ιουδαιοι ειτε ελληνες ειτε δουλοι ειτε ελευθεροι και παντες εις εν πνευμα εποτισθημεν
The scripture says what it says. Try reading it sometime.I know that is what you have tried to say the scripture means, but the scripture does not say that.
I explained it to you. You can't refute what I say. All you can say is:
"the scripture doesn't say that."
That is lame.
What has greater authority: Mr. Webster or the Holy Spirit who wrote the Scriptures? I go with the latter, and use the Bible as my authority. I see that your authority is a dictionary. Here is what I said:Again, just because you say so does not make it so. I gave scripture and English dictionary definition. You cannot be reasoned with.
1Cor.12-14--supernatural gifts.
Romans 1--spiritual gift.
--they are as different as night and day.
Learn the difference. There is a big difference between the two epistles and between the doctrines that Paul was teaching in the two epistles.
Not all spiritual gifts are supernatural gifts, as they are in 1Cor.12-14.Paul wanted to impart a spiritual gift. That is what the scripture says.
I am quite capable of teaching algebra without my next door neighbor doing anything, thank you very much. That ability comes with home-schooling one's children.Can your next-door non-believer neighbor come to your house, lay his hands on you, and give you a gift like knowledge of math so you can teach algebra?
It is not supernatural because I learned it in school first, and then further studied it when I had to teach it.Why or why not? Would it be supernatural or not?
The supernatural sign gifts have ceased. There is no reason for them to exist any longer. Even you admitted this in a post to Biblicist some time ago, speaking of tongues. You are being hypocritical now.Do you still not see how ridiculous your denial of the truth is?
There is a difference between the supernatural gifts of the Spirit, and spiritual gifts that Paul mentioned as in Romans 1:11.Do you really think that you quoting some person to say what your itching ear wants to hear will impress me?
I also have had hands laid on me at various times in my life. But nothing supernatural happened, and I never expected it to. It was purely symbolic, as it was for Timothy and as it was for Paul and Barnabas in Acts 13:1-4.
Acts 13:1-3 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.